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-====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== 
-The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ 
  
- 1. **[[Thomas_de_montmorenci_florence_mary_m-p|Thomas de Montmorenci]]** (27 January 1848-11 December 1902).((Qld Death registration C1918.))\\  
-{{:tom_morres.jpg?250|}} Young 'Tommy' de Montmorenci M-P with his brother Morres, from his father's album.\\ 
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-Colin Roderick's biography of Rosa Praed refers to a letter by Matilda to her mother-in-law describing how their property Bromelton was isolated by a flood when she gave birth to Thomas: 'Having neither doctor nor nurse, and knowing that I might die before there was any hope of medical assistance, I endeavoured to prepare my mind for leaving this world.'((Colin Roderick, //In Mortal Bondage: the Strange Life of Rosa Praed//, Sydney: Angus & Robertson, 1948, p.10.)) Death was a distinct possibility for her baby too, given he was premature.((Patricia Clarke, 'The Murray-Priors at Bromelton 1844-1853' in Patricia Savage (compiled), //They came to Bromelton: a brief outline of the life and times of the early pioneers who came to Bromleton - from the pages of history, personal diaries, old letters and family recollections//, Patricia Savage, 2004, p.20.)) It is not known if Matilda's difficulties were compounded by the knowledge that [[wait_there_s_more|Emma Quin]] also gave birth in 1848 and that it would later be believed that the father was TLM-P.\\ 
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-**For more on this Thomas M-P, go to [[thomas_de_montmorenci_florence_mary_m-p|Thomas de Montmorenci, Florence and Mary M-P]]**\\ 
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- 2. **William** Augustus* (18 August 1849-17 January 1850)((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) had the same name as his late [[william_augustus_murray_prior|uncle]]. Like his elder brother, he was born at Bromleton; he was also buried there.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Colin Roderick ((p.11)) describes how baby William had [[wp>Dysentery|dysentery]]. Disastrously, the conventional medical routine at the time for someone with this form of diarrhoea including purging, that is, giving medicine designed to discharge whatever was causing the problem. That remedy increased any diarrhoea/vomiting and heightened dehydration. It is not surprising that so many babies with dysentery died, either from the original cause or because of the medical intervention by their desperate carers. In dying this way, 5-month-old William was one of many - but to his grieving family, it was a uniquely tragic event.\\ 
-{{:baby_william_grave.jpg?400|}} William's solitary grave in Bromelton's garden.((Thanks to Dr John Thearle who took this photo on 19 October 1997 and gave it to J. Godden.))\\ 
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- 3. **Rosa** Caroline (27 March 1851((Qld Births registration no. BBP473; her birth was not registered until her sister was born in 1854))- 2 April 1935). She was born at Bromelton station and, like her elder brother, baptised by the Rev. Benjamin Glennie.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Her family called her 'Rosie'. Like her sister Lizzie, she had a deeply loving relationship with her ailing mother. {{:rosie_m-p.jpg?200|}}\\ 
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-Rosa made what seemed the ideal marriage for an Anglophile colonial writer when she married Arthur Campbell Bulkley Mackworth Praed on 29 October 1872. As she latter wrote, her family and friends 'all wanted to be English', and Praed seemed a particularly dashing member of the English gentry, with a lifestyle bankrolled by his father's interests in a bank and brewery in London. Campbell Praed c. 1867, photo at State Library of Queensland: {{:campbell_praed_ca_1867.jpg?100|}}\\ 
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-Perhaps the clinching detail to the aspiring writer was that his uncle was a well-known poet [[wp>Winthrop_Mackworth_Praed]]. Other current and future members of the family were also artistic - for example, there is a well-executed portrait of Rosa in the SLNSW attributed to an Emily Praed.((SLNSW, ML1039)). To the young Rosa, her suitor embodied cultured English gentry. Sadly, neither of the couple lived up to the other's ideal. Divorce in these times was very difficult, expensive and entailed social disgrace, so the unhappy couple produced children but separated in 1899. Today it is probable that Rosa would identify as a  lesbian; as it was, she wrote to her friend and co-author Justin McCarthy that (by implication, heterosexual) sex was 'a side of life that has always repelled me.'((Patricia Clarke, 'Rosa Praed's Irish Connections', //The Australian Journal of Irish Studies//, vol. 1, 2001, p.120 citing Rosa Praed to Justin McCarthy, typescript extracts, Praed papers 8/13/1.)) It did not help that Campbell Praed had a reputation for unfaithfulness. The heroine who was reared in the Victorian ideal of female innocent/ignorance, and then married someone unsuitable, became a common theme in Rosa's books. That theme resonated with many women's experiences, especially given that divorce was very difficult, expensive, condemned by churches, and meant social disgrace.\\ 
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-The marriage did not start well. Their first home was the romantically named 'Monte Christo', a 500 square mile property on Port Curtis Island near [[wp>Gladstone,_Queensland|Gladstone]]. The property was a joint venture by Campbell Praed and a former vetinarary surgeon, Dr Samuel Joseph Wills.((https://www.secretbrisbane.com.au/home/2017/7/13/suburban-dentist-a-salt-works-and-one-of-queenslands-most-important-female-novelists)) Rosa's romantic dreams were dashed by the reality of scrubby land and hordes of mosquitoes.((Roderick, //In Mortal Bondage//, p.65.)) Four years later, they left the island with Praed's hopes of making a colonial fortune ended.((Roderick states they returned for a visit to the station in 1882, pp.92-93. Rosa also visited Australia shortly after her father's death, and in 1895, Roderick, //In Mortal Bondage//, pp.102-03, 115.))\\ 
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-The Praeds left Australia in 1876 to live in England, but again reality was no match for Rosa's colonial fantasies. Praed's family circle tended to more insular gentry/business people rather than cultured sophisticates. Despite personal tragedy, Rosa forged her own way in England, becoming a prolific novelist. She wrote over 50 novels, many of them with controversial social themes. The height of her fame was the 1880s and 1890s. Almost half her novels had Australian settings or characters, and she only visited Australia rarely.((one example was in 1895, //New Zealand Herald//, 7 FEBRUARY 1895, p.6.)) Instead, she relied on her family, initially mostly her step-mother and father, to refresh her mind regarding Australian details. After her father's death and her step-mother's removal to live in England, Rosa gained much of her Australian details from her sister Lizzie Jardine and other siblings.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, 16/33)) In particular, she directly incorporated the experiences of her brothers Morres and Hugh into her stories.((Patricia Clarke, 'A Paradox of Exile: Rosa Praed's Lifelines to her Australian Past', in //Landscapes of Exile: Once Perilous, Now Safe//, eds. Anna Haebich and Baden Offord, Oxford: Peter Lang, 2008; amongst other news, Rosa used her brother's story of a toddler who wandered off and died at his sister Lizzie's home, Aberfoyle station: //The Australasian Sketcher with Pen and Pencil// 31 October 1889, p.171.)) In keeping with her father's ideals, she supported Irish home rule, largely through collaboration with fellow writer and Irish nationalist [[wp>Justin_McCarthy_(1830–1912)|Justin McCarthy.]]((Patricia Clarke, 'Rosa Praed's Irish Connections', //The Australian Journal of Irish Studies//, vol. 1, 2001, pp.118-25.))\\ 
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-**For more, click on [[Rosa Praed]].**\\ 
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- 4. **Morres**(15((TLM-P has 16th, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846. No online record of his birth registration has been found.)) May 1853 - 29((Robert M-P has 18th)) October 1897)((Qld Death registration C937; his death registration calls him 'Morris', an understandable mistake if by a stranger.)) Morres was born and baptised at Bromelton Station((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)); he never married. In April 1880, TLM-P registered a mortgage on Morres' property at Cleveland, Brisbane. ((Andrew Darbyshire, //A Fair Slice of St Lucia//, p.122.)) In the late 1880s/early 1890s, like his brother Hugh, Morres was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) \\ \\ 
-Morres died, lonely and depressed, when he was 44 years old. As historian Janet McCalman outlines, it was not an unusual fate for people in an emigrant society.((Janet McCalman, 'To Die without Friends: Solitaries, Drifters and Failures in a New World Society', //Body and Mind: Historical Essays in Honour of F. B. Smith//, eds. G. Davison et al, Melbourne University Press, 2009, pp.173-194. <https://search-informit-com-au.ezproxy1.library.usyd.edu.au/documentSummary;dn=212683401745250;res=IELHSS> ISBN: 9780522857177. [cited 10 Aug 18].))   When he died, Morres had been living for at least two years at Bulliwallah Station in the Clermont District, some 920 km northwest of Brisbane. He wrote a sadly revealing letter to his step-sister Dorothy a month before he died. **For more click on [[Letter]].**\\ 
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-His step-brother Robert M-P states that Morres died from kidney failure. This is not incompatible with Isobel Hannah's claim that he died 'from the scourge of the "Out-back," berri berri'.((Isobel Hannah, 'The Royal Descent of the First Postmaster-General of Queensland', Queensland Geographical Journal, vol. LV, 1953-54, p.12.)) She presumably meant [[wp>Thiamine_deficiency|beriberi]], a severe and chronic form of thiamine (B1) deficiency caused by, among other things, dehydration. One of the problems of all migrants was adjusting to new conditions, and an entry in TLM-P's diary when Morres was 10 years old gives an indication how difficult it was to adjust to a semi-tropical climate: 'Morres had a sort of sun stroke and was very bad at first but recovering ... poor little fellow'.((19 January 1863, p.19)) If Morres had a weakness in his kidney function, then the heat and lack of water in summer in outback Queensland was a lethal combination.\\ 
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-There are numerous photos of Morres in Nora and TLM-P's albums: the one below is from TLM-P's. See above for a photo of him with his eldest brother Tom. {{:morres_3.jpg?250|}} **For more photos of Morres and his grave, click on [[Morres]]**\\ 
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-5. Elizabeth (**Lizzie**) Catherine (29 October 1854((Qld Births registration no. BBP1252 spells her name Elisabeth)) - 19 December 1940). She was baptised in Brisbane on Ash Wednesday 1855.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.))\\ 
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-{{  :lizzie_jardine.jpg?250|}} This photo is of Lizzie in fancy dress.((Provenance: J. Godden))\\ 
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-At some stage before 1882, Lizzie visited her sister Rosa in England. TLM-P arranged the trip to discourage her relationship with John (Jack) Robert Jardine.((TLM-P, Diary, e.g. 29 May 1882; Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, pp.69-70)) His misgivings about the character and lack of financial acumen of Lizzie's chosen mate was shared by her step-mother Nora. Despite her father's misgivings, and Lizzie's frail health,((there are many references to Lizzie's health, e.g. that 'Lizzie not strong and had gone to Brisbane', TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)) she married Jack Jardine at Maroon Station on 14 June 1883.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) What could be accepted in a father, was not forgiven in a step-mother. Three years into her marriage, Lizzie wrote to Rosa: '//When I married Jack I knew that for years to come I should have plenty to contend against. But there is much to sweeten toil. Someday I look forward to a more civilised home. Meantime we are content and live for each other ... [I think Nora] only pretends to like Jack for my sake and [I] cannot forget the hard things she said about him ... He is only an Australian bushman, but he is true, loyal and the tenderest of husbands and we love each other. When I say that I say everything.'//((Lizzie Jardine to Rosa Praed, 1886, Praed Papers, QJO.))\\ 
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-Jack Jardine was part of a North Queensland family whose English gentry antecedents impressed TLM-P.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Jack's father (His first name was also  John) was famed for pioneering feats and for founding the settlement of [[http://www.cape-york-australia.com/somerset-australia.html|Somerset]] at Cape York(([[http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/jardine-john-3850]] - but also for his exceptionally savage brutality towards the indigenous people.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) The name Jardine was also well-known due to the transgressive marriage in 1873 of Jack Jardine's eldest brother Frank to Sana Solia nee De Boos, a niece of the king of Samoa.(({{http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/jardine-john-3850}}))\\ 
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-Jack Jardine had taken charge of Vallack Point Station, near Somerset (Cape York), in 1868 when he was only 21 years old. At some time he appears to have been in the Barcoo area in Central West Queensland, as Nora wrote to Rosa reassuring her that, if Lizzie did live there, it was no longer 'the unattainable uninhabitable 'terra incognita' ... You can't stretch a line 80 miles in a given direction there now without touching a piano or a sewing machine - Ladies and babies are as thick as bandicoots ... and the former are very angry if you hint there may possibly be a more desirable place of residence.'((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 13 May 1883, Praed papers, QJO)) Despite this reassuring description of the Barcoo, after their marriage, Lizzie stayed with the Jardines in Rockhampton while her husband set up a home for her at Aberfoyle Station in western Queensland (just over 1,000 km northwest of Brisbane), breeding sheep and cattle.  TLM-P bought the property in partnership with Jack Jardine in 1885 to try to secure Lizzie's future.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) \\ 
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-As with so many of TLM-P's ventures - not to mention Jack Jardine's - the property was not profitable, with the 1890s drought the last straw.((Anne Alloway and Roberta Morrison,//Tales from Bush Graves. A study of bush graves in north-west Queensland,// Brisbane: Boolarong Press, 2012, p.2.)) A key reason was its unreliable water supply.((//Otago Witness//, issue 2668, 3 May 1905, p.8.)) TLM-P's 1892 will states that the property cost him £10,070 and that, by then, the partnership had a £8,000 mortgage.((copy of will with J. Godden.)) Aberfoyle was sold after TLM-P's death and, in 1905, the Queensland Supreme Court was told that the loss that entailed was the chief reason the estate could not afford to pay the bequests.((//The Richmond River Express and Casino Kyogle Advertiser//, 3 November 1905, p.6.)) It also appears that Lizzie's youngest brother Egerton also lived on the property((ref: Burke)) [to do: loose 1888 balance sheet for Aberfoyle station in ML - was in reported of Queensland post service for 1864, donated with diaries, 4pp.] When Jack Jardine died from pneumonia((M-P family papers, NLA Ms 7801, folder 25, Ruth? M-P to Rosa Praed?, 1 October 1911.)) at [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]] in 1911, he worked for Messrs Aplin, Brown and Co., a major mercantile company operating in north Queensland.((Wiki entry for Aplin, Brown and Co; Jill Fleming, email to J. Godden, 18 January 2018)) **For more, click on the [[Jardines]].**\\  
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- 6. **Hervey** Morres (9 September 1856((Qld Births registration no. C543))-1 January 1887.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry. Queensland online death registration C1359 gives his first name as 'Henry', an easy mistake to make.)) His godmother was his English step-aunt Jemima Prior.((TLM-P, diary, 17 July 1864)) {{ :hervey_m-p.jpg?200|}} Photo: Hervey as young man, full of promise.((Provenance: J. Godden))\\ 
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-Hervey was born at Hawkwood Station, baptised by the Rev. Mr Dodd, and was buried in South Brisbane (later called Toowong) Cemetery.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) After school in Tasmania, Hervey gained a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Sydney, where he lived at St Paul's College.(([[http://www.stpauls.edu.au/home/contribute/benefactors/founders-of-scholarships-and-prizes]]; M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, 15/30.)) Despite his alcoholism, he became a barrister and Master of Titles for Queensland. He was also a member of the 'Colony of Queensland Society'.((Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.50.)) From the early 1880s until 1885, Hervey leased one of Brisbane's historic houses, [[wp>Middenbury_House|Middenbury]] which now has the address of 600 Coronation Drive, Toowong.((ABC Studios, Heritage  Register, entry for Middenbury))\\ 
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-Hervey married Margaret (Maggie) McDonald in 1881. It was a short-lived and troubled marriage, with Hervey dying aged 30 when his son, Hervey McDonald M-P, was four (born 25 April 1883).((QBDM, registration number 1883/B/30531)) Baby Hervey's parents followed family tradition and had him baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane.((Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.50; 'Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Even before Hervey's death, TLM-P and Nora assumed responsibility for Maggie and her son. In August 1882, when TLM-P was away, they came to stay at Maroon.((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)) Maggie and her son also accompanied TLM-P, Nora and other family members on their visit to England in 1885.((//The Queenslander//, 5 December 1885, p.909.))\\ 
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-The following report of Hervey's death highlighted his potential: that 'at Sydney University ... he ... graduated B.A. with great credit, being nearly at the head of the list in his year. Shortly afterwards he was called to the Queensland Bar, and in March, 1883, was appointed Crown Prosecutor for the Southern district. In July, 1884, he was appointed Master of Titles, which office he held up to his death. He bore a good reputation as a barrister, and his knowledge and grasp of the laws relating to real property are said to have been very considerable.'((//The Queenslander// 8 January 1887 p.55.)) 
-**For more on Hervey and Margaret M-P, click on [[Hervey]]**\\ 
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- 7.**Redmond** (6 October 1858((Qld Births registration no. B781; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; T.A M-P's Family Bible states he was born 25 October 1858 at Cleveland but this would appear to be incorrect.)) - 21 January 1911((Qld Death C198 for year.)) 'Reddie', as his family called him, was born at Kangaroo Point, Brisbane and baptised there by the Rev. B.E. Shaw.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Redmond was a family name; TLM-P visited the house at Brighton where an earlier Redmond M-P had lived.((TLM-P, Diary, 25 June 1882)) In 1882, the 24 year old Redman was being 'obstinate', causing problems for his step-mother while his father was away.((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882))\\  
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-He died aged 52 shortly after boarding a train to go to Bowen for medical treatment after complaining of being unwell. He was described as having lived in [[wp>Proserpine,_Queensland|Proserpine, north Queensland]] for over 20 years. He had pursued mining interests (the area is known for its gold) in the district and had, shortly before his death, acquired an interest in a farm at nearby Kelsey Creek.((//Bowen Independent//, 24 January 1911, p.2.)) To date we have no more information about the adult Reddie, other than a comment by his step-mother in 1880 that Alice Bundock was attached to him (Alice's sister Mary became the second wife of Redmond's eldest brother Thomas de M. M-P).((Praed papers, QJO OM64-1, 4/2/1-4, cited by Julie Marcus in __First in their Field__)) The attachment did not come to anything as Redmond apparently died unmarried. We know nothing about any other attachments, or the reason for the family's relative silence about him.\\ 
-The photo, from TLM-P's album, is of Reddie (right) and his brother Hugh. {{:reddie_and_hugh.jpg?300|}} **For more photos, click on [[Reddie]]**.\\ 
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- 8. **Weeta** Sophia* (24 June 1860((Qld Births registration no. B208; Robert M-P has 12 June))- 27 July 1860.((Robert has 8 July 1860; Qld Death registration B488; TLM-P gave year as 1861,‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) She was born at Cleveland, dying there just over a month later. She was buried at Cleveland, but not baptised.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Her name is engraved on the marble on the front of the family grave at [[family_burial_site_toowong_cemetery_brisbane|Toowong cemetery]].\\ 
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-9. **Hugh** (26 July 1861((Qld Births registration no. B695; TLM-P gives 26 July 1861, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; Robert M-P has 25 July as does T.A. M-P's Family Bible.)) - 28 December 1896).((Burke has 1895; Robert M-P states he died c.27 December 1897; His death was registered in 1896, Qld Death registration C6; T.A.M-P's Family Bible has his death in 1896 at Annie Vale station.))  If later belief is correct, Hugh's half-sister was born less than a fortnight after Hugh, to TLM-P and [[wait_there_s_more|Annie Smith]]. \\ 
-{{:reddie_and_hugh_enhanced.jpg?250|}} The photo is of Hugh (right) with his older brother Redmond.((Like the one above, the photo is from TLM-P's album. Provenance: J. Godden)) Hugh was born at Cleveland and baptised at Brisbane by the Rev. John Bliss.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) In 1882, his step-mother wrote to TLM-P that 21-year Hugh was 'breaking out again', probably referring to his drinking. TLM-P immediately wrote to him, hoping 'it will have some effect upon him.'((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882))\\ 
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-By the late 1880s or early 1890s Hugh, like his brother Morres, was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Isobel Hannah wrote that he died 'from sunstroke on a lonely track between Annie Vale and Doongmabulla', in central Queensland.((Isobel Hannah, 'The Royal Descent of the First Postmaster-General of Queensland', Queensland Geographical Journal, vol. LV, 1953-54, p.12.)) He never married.\\ 
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-**For more photos, click on [[Hugh]].**\\ 
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- 10. **Lodge** (August 1863((Qld Births registration no. B1669; Robert M-P has 29 March 1863)) - September 1863).((Qld Death registration B1158; ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) He was born and baptised at Brisbane, dying when one month old; he was buried in the family plot at [[family_burial_site_toowong_cemetery_brisbane|Toowong (then known as the South Brisbane) Cemetery]].((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Not surprisingly, after he died Matilda wanted a holiday. A month later TLM-P decided to vacate their Brisbane house so it could be let out while Matilda and the children went  to Tasmania for six months.((TLM-P, diary, 29 October 1863.)) The break may have helped Matilda recover but appears to have proved too much for TLM-P's fidelity: [[wait_there_s_more|Clara van Zuethem]] gave birth to a son on 25 January 1864 whose father was believed to be TLM-P.\\ 
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-11. **Matilda** (26((Qld Births registration no. B3500;TLM-P has 27th, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846.)) January 1865 -  11 May 1865.((Qld Death registration B2324; ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) She was christened in Brisbane but, when three and a half months old, joined her brother Lodge in the family plot at [[family_burial_site_toowong_cemetery_brisbane|Toowong (then known as the South Brisbane) Cemetery]].((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.))\\ 
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- 12. **Egerton** (5 October 1866((Qld Births registration no. B6322; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, A// Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846.))- 1 September 1936). Egerton was born at Maroon((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and was two-years-old when his mother died. 'Egerton' appears to be a family name through TLM-P's mother. Significantly for TLM-P, it had aristocratic connections as the [[wp>Egerton_family|family name]] of the Dukes of Bridgewater and Sutherland, as well as of various earls. In 1882, TLM-P stayed with John Skynner Egerton Bishop who lived at Brighton.((TLM-P, Diary 27 June 1882)) **For more, click on [[Bishop]].** \\ 
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-Egerton inherited his grandfather's (and mother's?) love of poetry, publishing his Poems (Brisbane: Watson, Ferguson & Co. Printers) in 1893.((This 16pp booklet was selected for digitalisation by the John Oxley Library in 2016, but it doesn't appear to have happened yet.))\\ 
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-{{:egerton_poetry.jpg?300|}} Cover of Egerton's poems, ML A821/P658.2/1A1. **For more, click on [[Egerton's poetry]].**\\ 
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-Egerton and Sara Arbuthnot Crawford (b. St James' Park, London) married on 30 April 1894 at St Andrew's Church of England, Lutwyche in Brisbane.((This church has since been replaced, see {{http://www.lutwycheanglican.org.au/about-us/history}})) They lived at Moorlands, Malvern Hills, Blackall in south-west Queensland((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and had one son, Egerton Thomas Crawford M-P, who was born in Brisbane who died less than a month old. For more, click on [[Baby Egerton]]. Egerton and Sara had no other children and Sara died in c.1903.((Qld death registration C1358)) He became a diary farmer at [[wp>Nambour,_Queensland|Nambour]] in Queensland, but became bankrupt.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, special set 15/83)) In a codicil to his will just before he died in December 1892, TLM-P provided for Egerton's £3,000 legacy being paid to him before his father's death; presumably to protect the money from creditors, he also stipulated that no income be paid to Egerton (or his younger brothers) while bankrupt, although it could be paid to any wife or children.((codicil, copy with J. Godden.))\\ 
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-In 1905, Egerton re-married, to Annie Grace (known as Grace) Crawford.((Qld marriage registration C2010)) Was she a relative of Sara's, perhaps a sister? The original certificates are needed to help clear up this mystery.((Annie was born in 1879, daughter of Fergus and Agnes Crawford, Birth registration number B24396). In August 1911, Ruth M-P wrote to Rosa Praed that she had seen Egerton and Grace - he was looking prosperous and had just bought his neighbour's farm but, she added, Egerton's 'swans are often geese'.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, folder 25.))\\ 
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-Egerton is buried in the family plot at Toowong Cemetery, Brisbane.\\ 
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-Photos of Egerton: {{:egerton_1.jpg?200|}} {{:egerton_from_tlmp.jpg?200|}}{{:egerton_2.jpg?200|}}((Provenance: J. Godden)).\\ 
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-This next photo, in a beautiful tooled leather case, was donated by Colin Roderick to the ML((MIN 333)). He identified one of the boys as possibly Egerton. {{:img_0419_edited.jpg?300|}} 
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-Later generations believed that, around five months after Egerton's birth, another baby was born to TLM-P, this time with [[wait_there_s_more|Mary Ingoldsby]].\\ 
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-===== Who? ===== 
-This photo is probably one of Matilda's sons when adult, but which one? {{:unidentified_4_enh.jpeg?200|}}((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\ 
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-==== Boys' education ==== 
-Patricia Clarke asserts that Matilda and her children avoided the worst of Brisbane's summer heat by spending some summers in Hobart. Subsequently, the younger boys, Morres, Hervey, Redmond, Hugh and Egerton 'became boarders at the private, highly regarded, non-sectarian High School in Hobart'.((Patricia Clarke, //Rosa! Rosa!// p.22.)) The older boys attended the school too. Thomas de M. M-P was at 'Mr. Shaw's school, Brisbane' then at 'the High School, Hobart, Tasmania'.((//The Telegraph// (Brisbane), 29 March 1901 p.8.)) Similarly, Hervey M-P was reported as 'a distinguished pupil at the Ipswich Grammar School, and subsequently at the High School, Tasmania, where he gained one or two important scholarships'.((//The Queenslander// 8 January 1887 p.55.)) Table Talk ((12 June 1902, p.17.)) reports that Thomas de M. M-P attended the High School in Hobart in the early 1860s, when it was run by the Rev. R. D. Poulett Harris and was a 'notable' private  school attracting boys from various regions of Australia. The school's eminence lasted until 1878; it closed in 1885.((E. L. French, 'Harris, Richard Deodatus Poulett (1817–1899)', //Australian Dictionary of Biography//, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/harris-richard-deodatus-poulett-3726/text5855, published first in hardcopy 1972, accessed online 14 August 2018.)) It is not to be confused with the later state-run Hobart High School which operated 1913-66 or its prestigious rival, the Hutchins School.\\ 
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-Even given the school's reputation, it was a long way to go for a cool summer retreat and difficult to understand sending young boys from Queensland to school there. One consideration was the strong belief at the time that Queensland's tropical climate sapped the vitality of young Britons, resulting in a degenerate 'race'.((Shirleene Robinson and Emily Wilson, 'Preserving the traditions of a "great race": youth and national character in Queensland, 1859-1918', //Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society//, 94:2, December 2008, pp.166-85; Warwick Anderson, //The Cultivation of Whiteness. Science, Health and Racial Destiny in Australia//, Melbourne: Melbourne University Press, 2002; David Walker, //Anxious Nation: Australia and the Rise of Asia 1850-1939//, Brisbane, 1999.)) If so, the fear of degeneration was gendered: only the boys were sent to school while all the girls were taught at home by governesses, Matilda and older siblings.\\  
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-When we consider the early death and alcoholism of some of Matilda's sons, to the modern mind a question that can't be avoided is: what kind of experience did the boys have at to school in Tasmania? Was it simply because, as their eldest brother thought when he wrote to his step-mother deploring the character of Hugh and Morres, that they were too young to be sent so far from home?((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, 14/36)). If TLM-p's plans for Egerton are any guide, the boys were sent away to school when they were around 10 years old.((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 21 November 1874, Praed papers, Box 4, QJO.)) This was the age of 'spare the rod and spoil the child', when severe physical punishment was routine in schools. Yet the High School's Headmaster, the Rev. Harris, 'was charged with assaulting boys with a cane in March 1860 and June 1868, the first case being dismissed and the second settled out of court'. How brutal would the caning need to be to warrant that action in the 1860s? Is it relevant that Harris was 'prone to depression', with a daughter who was committed to a mental hospital?((E. L. French, 'Harris, Richard Deodatus Poulett (1817–1899)', //Australian Dictionary of Biography//, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/harris-richard-deodatus-poulett-3726/text5855, published first in hardcopy 1972, accessed online 14 August 2018.)) Yet again, heavy drinking by all classes was a feature of Queensland life at the time, so perhaps no other explanation is needed than the boys reflecting the social conditions around them.((Ross Fitzgerald, //From the Dreaming to 1915. A History of Queensland//,St Lucia: University of Queensland Press, 1982,pp.277,305.)) Yet doubt remains: why did the younger boys have such difficult lives? Why did their loving step-mother later find them difficult, and their father write about their behaviour, that it was 'all very hard, and cut me up.'((TLM-P diary, 16 August 1882))\\ 
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-{{:lyndhurst.jpg?300|}} The M-P family papers includes this photo, identified on the back as Lyndhurst, New Town Road, Hobart Town, Tasmania.((Provenance: J. Godden)) Lyndhurst was a popular name and nothing has yet been found about the homes in this photo, but does it hold a clue to why the children were sent to Hobart? Or, more probably, was it where Matilda and her children stayed when they went to Tasmania in November 1863- April 1864?((TLM-P diary, November 1863-April 1864))\\ 
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-==== Evidence ==== 
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-One source of information are the family bibles with names and dates of family members written it them, as shown by the next 3 photos of one family bible. {{:mp14.jpg?400|}} {{:mp13.jpg?400|}} {{:mp12.jpg?400|}}((Provenance, Col. Tom Murray-Prior, passed down to successive Thomas M-Ps and now owned by Tom A. M-P.))\\ 
-The next pages are from the Family Bible, as shown in the first photo, given to TLM-P by his half-sister Jemima((Provenance: E.S.M-P to Glenn M-P, Photos by Suzanne M-P)): {{:family_bible_glenn.jpg?300|}} {{:family_bible_glenn_title_2.jpg?300|}}{{:family_bible_glenn_list2.jpg?300|}}{{:family_bible_glenn_3.jpg?300|}} {{:family_bible_glenn_list.jpg?300|}}  
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-**Key Genealogical Sources**: Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, pp.49-50; TLM-P, ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; [Thomas M-P], [Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014; Thomas Bertram M-P, //Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty//, ms, n.d, pp.7-14, NLA; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors//, ms written 1901-05 NLA Nq929.2M984.\\ 
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-**N.B.** The above references give contradictory information regarding names and key dates, hence the references to births, deaths and marriage registrations. See https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/querySubmit.m?ReportName=BirthSearch, noting that certificates need to be bought to find out more than year and parents names. 
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