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| ====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== | ====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== |
| Matilda and TLM-P had 12 children. Four (William, Weeta, Lodge and Matilda) died when babies. Of the 6 sons who survived, only the eldest (Thomas) led a relatively untroubled life. Hervey and Hugh died in their 30s; Morres died lonely and depressed when he was 44. Redmond and Egerton also struggled. As suggested below, their schooling might provide an explanation, but so too was their aspiration to make a living from rural pursuits without the backing of substantial capital.((Janet McCalman, 'To Die without Friends: Solitaries, Drifters and Failures in a New World Society', //Body and Mind: Historical Essays in Honour of F. B. Smith//, eds. Graeme Davison et al, Melbourne University Press, 2009, pp.173-194.)) Of the two surviving daughters, Rosa became a hugely successful novelist with female misery a major theme and she later found refuge in spiritualism; Lizzie married for love, but no-one could be too surprised when the property her husband bought with her father was a financial failure. It was a failure which adversely affected many in the family, especially her step-siblings.\\ | Matilda and TLM-P had 12 children. Four (William, Weeta, Lodge and Matilda) died when babies. Of the 6 sons who survived, only the eldest (Thomas) led a relatively untroubled life. Hervey and Hugh died in their 30s; Morres died lonely and depressed when he was 44. Redmond and Egerton also struggled. As suggested below, their schooling might provide an explanation, but so too was their aspiration to make a living from rural pursuits without the backing of substantial capital.((Janet McCalman, 'To Die without Friends: Solitaries, Drifters and Failures in a New World Society', //Body and Mind: Historical Essays in Honour of F. B. Smith//, eds. Graeme Davison et al, Melbourne University Press, 2009, pp.173-194.)) Of the two surviving daughters, Rosa became a hugely successful novelist with female misery a major theme and she later found refuge in spiritualism; Lizzie married for love, but no-one could be too surprised when the property her husband bought with her father was a financial failure. It was a failure which adversely affected many in the family, especially her step-siblings. The list of cheques for 1866-68 indicate the expense of Morres education and Rosa's music. It also indicates that they were not too rigid Protestants as TLM-P spent £1 on a ticket for the Sisters of Mercy bazaar in June 1867.((MLMSS3117/Box 9)) \\ |
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| The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ | The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ |
| 4. **Morres**(15((TLM-P has 16th, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846. He was born before compulsory birth registrations and it appears his birth was not registered.)) May 1853 - 18 October 1897)((Qld Death registration C937; his death registration calls him 'Morris' despite the informant being his eldest brother.)) Morres was born and baptised at Bromelton Station;((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) he never married and had no known children.\\ | 4. **Morres**(15((TLM-P has 16th, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846. He was born before compulsory birth registrations and it appears his birth was not registered.)) May 1853 - 18 October 1897)((Qld Death registration C937; his death registration calls him 'Morris' despite the informant being his eldest brother.)) Morres was born and baptised at Bromelton Station;((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) he never married and had no known children.\\ |
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| Morres became a surveyor. He was at a Survey Camp Eton Vale in February 1876, and on 30 March 1878 he 'exhibited evidence of competence as surveyor and licensed to survey under land Act 1876 and real Property Act 1861', qualifying as a licensed surveyor. In March 1881, he was in western Queensland, at Jundah to lay out a township when locals were hoping for an extension of the telegraph from Isisford.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, pp.82-83.)) Gambling addiction and consequent debts apparently meant that he did not continue with a career as a surveyor.\\ | Morres initially worked on //Maroon//, being paid £30 pa by July 1870 when he was 17 years old.((MLMM3117/Box 8)). Later he became a surveyor. He was at a Survey Camp Eton Vale in February 1876, and on 30 March 1878 he 'exhibited evidence of competence as surveyor and licensed to survey under land Act 1876 and real Property Act 1861', qualifying as a licensed surveyor. In March 1881, he was in western Queensland, at Jundah to lay out a township when locals were hoping for an extension of the telegraph from Isisford.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, pp.82-83.)) Gambling addiction and consequent debts apparently meant that he did not continue with a career as a surveyor.\\ |
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| In April 1880, TLM-P registered a mortgage on Morres' property at Cleveland, Brisbane.((Andrew Darbyshire, //A Fair Slice of St Lucia//, p.122.)) In the late 1880s/early 1890s, like his brother Hugh, Morres was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) His step-mother considered that one 'cannot help loving him - his heart & impulses are so good', but that 'Morres, poor handsome, weak fellow, is a constantly recurring disappointment & heartbreak.... [he causes his father] bitter trouble'.((Nora to Rosa, 14 March 1883 and 3 December 1883)) Nora's letters to Rosa make numerous references to Morres' debts incurred through gambling: in 1880, he was contacted to do fencing for two years to help pay off a £957 debt (around $154,098 in 2019 values).((Nora to Rosa, 29 August 1880))\\ | In April 1880, TLM-P registered a mortgage on Morres' property at Cleveland, Brisbane.((Andrew Darbyshire, //A Fair Slice of St Lucia//, p.122.)) In the late 1880s/early 1890s, like his brother Hugh, Morres was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) His step-mother considered that one 'cannot help loving him - his heart & impulses are so good', but that 'Morres, poor handsome, weak fellow, is a constantly recurring disappointment & heartbreak.... [he causes his father] bitter trouble'.((Nora to Rosa, 14 March 1883 and 3 December 1883)) Nora's letters to Rosa make numerous references to Morres' debts incurred through gambling: in 1880, he was contacted to do fencing for two years to help pay off a £957 debt (around $154,098 in 2019 values).((Nora to Rosa, 29 August 1880))\\ |
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| 12. **Egerton** (5 October 1866((Qld Births registration no. B6322; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, A// Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846.))- 1 September 1936). Egerton was born at Maroon((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and was only 2 years-old when his mother died. 'Egerton' appears to be a family name through TLM-P's mother. Significantly for TLM-P, it had aristocratic connections as the [[wp>Egerton_family|family name]] of the Dukes of Bridgewater and Sutherland, as well as of various earls. In 1882, TLM-P stayed with John Skynner Egerton Bishop who lived at Brighton.((TLM-P, Diary 27 June 1882)) **For more, click on [[Bishop]].** \\ | 12. **Egerton** (5 October 1866((Qld Births registration no. B6322; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, A// Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846.))- 1 September 1936). Egerton was born at Maroon((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and was only 2 years-old when his mother died. 'Egerton' appears to be a family name through TLM-P's mother. Significantly for TLM-P, it had aristocratic connections as the [[wp>Egerton_family|family name]] of the Dukes of Bridgewater and Sutherland, as well as of various earls. In 1882, TLM-P stayed with John Skynner Egerton Bishop who lived at Brighton.((TLM-P, Diary 27 June 1882)) **For more, click on [[Bishop]].** \\ |
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| | Egerton suffered a life-threatening accident when he was 19 years old. The //Courier Mail// reported that, on Christmas day 1885, Edgerton was thrown from his young horse during a race with his cousin Charles Haly junior at Maroon : 'and seriously injured in the head', remaining unconscious for six days. 'On Saturday last he spoke for the first time, saying "Good-bye" to his brother, Mr. Hervey Murray-Prior, who was about to return to Brisbane. Information was received in town yesterday that the sufferer was still conscious, and that great hopes were **now** entertained of his recovery.'((8 January 1885, my emphasis)) It is likely, but not known, that he had permanent injuries from such a severe accident.\\ |
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| Egerton inherited his grandfather's (and mother's?) love of poetry, publishing his //Poems// (Brisbane: Watson, Ferguson & Co. Printers) in 1893.((This 16pp booklet was selected for digitalisation by the John Oxley Library in 2016, but it doesn't appear to have happened yet.)) Poetry was a skill likely to have been nurtured by his step-mother. Egerton was 6 years old when Nora married his father, and she agreed to help educate him home at Maroon.((Woolcock, Helen, M. John Thearle, Kay Saunders, '"My beloved chloroform'. Attitudes to Childbearing in Colonial Queensland: a case study', //Social History of Medicine//, 1997, p.441; Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 25 July 1880, JOL.)) He went to school (at least May 1878) at the High School, Hobart((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90.)) and at some stage school in Brisbane, boarding nearby, perhaps with his brother Hugh at his brother Hervey's place.((Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 14 March 1883)). In 1883, his step-mother described Egerton as 'growing very handsome, is steady & affectionate, & tho he has not set the Brisbane river on fire, has made himself a great favourite with his masters. He was 17 last Oct. & I do not think when he comes home this time, that he will go back to school again.'((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) TLM-P and Egerton's eldest brother Tom discussed his future on 14 October 1888: ' had a long chat with Tom about Egerton ... It is a question whether it would not be better for Eggy to wait till my return then to see how he gets on and whether bale to do the business.' Perhaps this referred to working on Bulli station, as he did with his brother Tom some time around 1888. Tom concluded that his brother was not very well suited to managing a station.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90; TLM-P, Diary 1888, 14 October.))\\ | Egerton inherited his grandfather's (and mother's?) love of poetry, publishing his //Poems// (Brisbane: Watson, Ferguson & Co. Printers) in 1893.((This 16pp booklet was selected for digitalisation by the John Oxley Library in 2016, but it doesn't appear to have happened yet.)) Poetry was a skill likely to have been nurtured by his step-mother. Egerton was 6 years old when Nora married his father, and she agreed to help educate him home at Maroon.((Woolcock, Helen, M. John Thearle, Kay Saunders, '"My beloved chloroform'. Attitudes to Childbearing in Colonial Queensland: a case study', //Social History of Medicine//, 1997, p.441; Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 25 July 1880, JOL.)) He went to school (at least May 1878) at the High School, Hobart((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90.)) and at some stage school in Brisbane, boarding nearby, perhaps with his brother Hugh at his brother Hervey's place.((Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 14 March 1883)). In 1883, his step-mother described Egerton as 'growing very handsome, is steady & affectionate, & tho he has not set the Brisbane river on fire, has made himself a great favourite with his masters. He was 17 last Oct. & I do not think when he comes home this time, that he will go back to school again.'((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) TLM-P and Egerton's eldest brother Tom discussed his future on 14 October 1888: ' had a long chat with Tom about Egerton ... It is a question whether it would not be better for Eggy to wait till my return then to see how he gets on and whether bale to do the business.' Perhaps this referred to working on Bulli station, as he did with his brother Tom some time around 1888. Tom concluded that his brother was not very well suited to managing a station.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90; TLM-P, Diary 1888, 14 October.))\\ |