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| ====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== | ====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== |
| Matilda and TLM-P had 12 children. Four (William, Weeta, Lodge and Matilda) died when babies. Of the 6 sons who survived, only the eldest (Thomas) led a relatively untroubled life. Hervey and Hugh died in their 30s; Morres died lonely and depressed when he was 44. Redmond and Egerton also struggled. As suggested below, their schooling might provide an explanation, but so too was their aspiration to make a living from rural pursuits without the backing of substantial capital.((Janet McCalman, 'To Die without Friends: Solitaries, Drifters and Failures in a New World Society', //Body and Mind: Historical Essays in Honour of F. B. Smith//, eds. G. Davison et al, Melbourne University Press, 2009, pp.173-194. <https://search-informit-com-au.ezproxy1.library.usyd.edu.au/documentSummary;dn=212683401745250;res=IELHSS> ISBN: 9780522857177. [cited 10 Aug 18].)) Of the two surviving daughters, Rosa became a hugely successful novelist with female misery a major theme and she later found refuge in spiritualism; Lizzie married for love, but no-one could be too surprised when the property her husband bought with her father was a financial failure. It was a failure which adversely affected many in the family, especially her step-siblings.\\ | Matilda and TLM-P had 12 children. Four (William, Weeta, Lodge and Matilda) died when babies. Of the 6 sons who survived, only the eldest (Thomas) led a relatively untroubled life. Hervey and Hugh died in their 30s; Morres died lonely and depressed when he was 44. Redmond and Egerton also struggled. As suggested below, their schooling might provide an explanation, but so too was their aspiration to make a living from rural pursuits without the backing of substantial capital.((Janet McCalman, 'To Die without Friends: Solitaries, Drifters and Failures in a New World Society', //Body and Mind: Historical Essays in Honour of F. B. Smith//, eds. Graeme Davison et al, Melbourne University Press, 2009, pp.173-194.)) Of the two surviving daughters, Rosa became a hugely successful novelist with female misery a major theme and she later found refuge in spiritualism; Lizzie married for love, but no-one could be too surprised when the property her husband bought with her father was a financial failure. It was a failure which adversely affected many in the family, especially her step-siblings. The list of cheques for 1866-68 indicate the expense of Morres education and Rosa's music. It also indicates that they were not too rigid Protestants as TLM-P spent £1 on a ticket for the Sisters of Mercy bazaar in June 1867.((MLMSS3117/Box 9)) \\ |
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| The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ | The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ |
| 4. **Morres**(15((TLM-P has 16th, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846. He was born before compulsory birth registrations and it appears his birth was not registered.)) May 1853 - 18 October 1897)((Qld Death registration C937; his death registration calls him 'Morris' despite the informant being his eldest brother.)) Morres was born and baptised at Bromelton Station;((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) he never married and had no known children.\\ | 4. **Morres**(15((TLM-P has 16th, TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846. He was born before compulsory birth registrations and it appears his birth was not registered.)) May 1853 - 18 October 1897)((Qld Death registration C937; his death registration calls him 'Morris' despite the informant being his eldest brother.)) Morres was born and baptised at Bromelton Station;((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) he never married and had no known children.\\ |
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| Morres became a surveyor. He was at a Survey Camp Eton Vale in February 1876, and on 30 March 1878 he 'exhibited evidence of competence as surveyor and licensed to survey under land Act 1876 and real Property Act 1861', qualifying as a licensed surveyor. In March 1881, he was in western Queensland, at Jundah to lay out a township when locals were hoping for an extension of the telegraph from Isisford.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, pp.82-83.)) Gambling addiction and consequent debts apparently meant that he did not continue with a career as a surveyor.\\ | Morres initially worked on //Maroon//, being paid £30 pa by July 1870 when he was 17 years old.((MLMM3117/Box 8)). Later he became a surveyor. He was at a Survey Camp Eton Vale in February 1876, and on 30 March 1878 he 'exhibited evidence of competence as surveyor and licensed to survey under land Act 1876 and real Property Act 1861', qualifying as a licensed surveyor. In March 1881, he was in western Queensland, at Jundah to lay out a township when locals were hoping for an extension of the telegraph from Isisford.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, pp.82-83.)) Gambling addiction and consequent debts apparently meant that he did not continue with a career as a surveyor.\\ |
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| In April 1880, TLM-P registered a mortgage on Morres' property at Cleveland, Brisbane.((Andrew Darbyshire, //A Fair Slice of St Lucia//, p.122.)) In the late 1880s/early 1890s, like his brother Hugh, Morres was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) His step-mother considered that one 'cannot help loving him - his heart & impulses are so good', but that 'Morres, poor handsome, weak fellow, is a constantly recurring disappointment & heartbreak.... [he causes his father] bitter trouble'.((Nora to Rosa, 14 March 1883 and 3 December 1883)) Nora's letters to Rosa make numerous references to Morres' debts incurred through gambling: in 1880, he was contacted to do fencing for two years to help pay off a £957 debt (around $154,098 in 2019 values).((Nora to Rosa, 29 August 1880))\\ | In April 1880, TLM-P registered a mortgage on Morres' property at Cleveland, Brisbane.((Andrew Darbyshire, //A Fair Slice of St Lucia//, p.122.)) In the late 1880s/early 1890s, like his brother Hugh, Morres was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) His step-mother considered that one 'cannot help loving him - his heart & impulses are so good', but that 'Morres, poor handsome, weak fellow, is a constantly recurring disappointment & heartbreak.... [he causes his father] bitter trouble'.((Nora to Rosa, 14 March 1883 and 3 December 1883)) Nora's letters to Rosa make numerous references to Morres' debts incurred through gambling: in 1880, he was contacted to do fencing for two years to help pay off a £957 debt (around $154,098 in 2019 values).((Nora to Rosa, 29 August 1880))\\ |
| From c. February 1879 to early 1881, Lizzie was away visiting her sister Rosa in England. TLM-P arranged the trip to discourage her relationship with John (Jack) Robert Jardine.((TLM-P, Diary, e.g. 29 May 1882; Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, pp.69-70)) His misgivings about the character and lack of financial acumen of Lizzie's chosen mate was shared by her step-mother Nora. Lizzie's frail health added to their misgivings.((there are many references to Lizzie's health, e.g. that 'Lizzie not strong and had gone to Brisbane', TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)) Nora wrote to Rosa that "Jack has had full warning that he is marrying an invalid to be nursed, & not a general servant to look after __his__ comfort, & says that he quite understands."((Nora to Rosa, 7 February 1883))\\ | From c. February 1879 to early 1881, Lizzie was away visiting her sister Rosa in England. TLM-P arranged the trip to discourage her relationship with John (Jack) Robert Jardine.((TLM-P, Diary, e.g. 29 May 1882; Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, pp.69-70)) His misgivings about the character and lack of financial acumen of Lizzie's chosen mate was shared by her step-mother Nora. Lizzie's frail health added to their misgivings.((there are many references to Lizzie's health, e.g. that 'Lizzie not strong and had gone to Brisbane', TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)) Nora wrote to Rosa that "Jack has had full warning that he is marrying an invalid to be nursed, & not a general servant to look after __his__ comfort, & says that he quite understands."((Nora to Rosa, 7 February 1883))\\ |
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| Lizzie married Jack Jardine at Maroon Station on 14 June 1883.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Nora had been close to Lizzie, seeing her as 'very necessary for my full happiness, the one I have most rapport with' in the family. Nora also wrote warmly of Jack being dependable though she worried that his mind was very different from Lizzie's. ((Nora to Rosa, 22 November 1882)) But the marriage caused a permanent rift; words that could be accepted in a father, was not forgiven in a step-mother. Three years into her marriage, Lizzie wrote to Rosa: '//When I married Jack I knew that for years to come I should have plenty to contend against. But there is much to sweeten toil. Someday I look forward to a more civilised home. Meantime we are content and live for each other ... [I think Nora] only pretends to like Jack for my sake and [I] cannot forget the hard things she said about him ... He is only an Australian bushman, but he is true, loyal and the tenderest of husbands and we love each other. When I say that I say everything.'//((Lizzie Jardine to Rosa Praed, 1886, Praed Papers, QJO.))\\ | Lizzie married Jack Jardine at Maroon Station on 14 June 1883.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Nora had been close to Lizzie, seeing her as 'very necessary for my full happiness, the one I have most rapport with' in the family. Nora also wrote warmly of Jack being dependable though she worried that his mind was very different from Lizzie's. ((Nora to Rosa, 22 November 1882)) But the marriage caused a permanent rift; words that could be accepted in a father, were not forgiven in a step-mother. Three years into her marriage, Lizzie wrote to Rosa: '//When I married Jack I knew that for years to come I should have plenty to contend against. But there is much to sweeten toil. Someday I look forward to a more civilised home. Meantime we are content and live for each other ... [I think Nora] only pretends to like Jack for my sake and [I] cannot forget the hard things she said about him ... He is only an Australian bushman, but he is true, loyal and the tenderest of husbands and we love each other. When I say that I say everything.'//((Lizzie Jardine to Rosa Praed, 1886, Praed Papers, QJO.))\\ |
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| Jack Jardine was part of a North Queensland family whose English gentry antecedents impressed TLM-P.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Jack's father (His first name was also John) was famed for pioneering feats and for founding the settlement of [[http://www.cape-york-australia.com/somerset-australia.html|Somerset]] at Cape York (([[http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/jardine-john-3850]])) - but also for his brutality towards the Indigenous owners of the land.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) Jack's eldest brother Frank was openly murderous towards Indigenous people, reputed to have 'a Terry rifle with 47 notches on the stock for confirmed killings of Aboriginal people'.((John Bayton, 'The Mission to the Aborigines at Somerset', //Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society of Queensland//, 7(3), 1965, p.622-33 cited in Belinda McKay, 'Proleptic Modernism?' //Queensland Review//, p.127)) Frank Jardine was also well-known due to his transgressive marriage in 1873 to Sana Solia nee De Boos, a niece of the king of [[wp>Samoa|Samoa]].(({{http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/jardine-john-3850}}))\\ | Jack Jardine was part of a North Queensland family whose English gentry antecedents impressed TLM-P.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Jack's father (His first name was also John) was famed for pioneering feats and for founding the settlement of [[http://www.cape-york-australia.com/somerset-australia.html|Somerset]] at Cape York (([[http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/jardine-john-3850]])) - but also for his brutality towards the Indigenous owners of the land.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) Jack's eldest brother Frank was openly murderous towards Indigenous people, reputed to have 'a Terry rifle with 47 notches on the stock for confirmed killings of Aboriginal people'.((John Bayton, 'The Mission to the Aborigines at Somerset', //Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society of Queensland//, 7(3), 1965, p.622-33 cited in Belinda McKay, 'Proleptic Modernism?' //Queensland Review//, p.127)) Frank Jardine was also well-known due to his transgressive marriage in 1873 to Sana Solia nee De Boos, a niece of the king of [[wp>Samoa|Samoa]].(({{http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/jardine-john-3850}}))\\ |
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| Jack Jardine had taken charge of Vallack Point Station, near Somerset (Cape York), in 1868 when he was only 21 years old. At some time he appears to have been in the Barcoo area in Central West Queensland, as Nora wrote to Rosa reassuring her that, if Lizzie did live there, it was no longer //'the unattainable uninhabitable 'terra incognita' ... You can't stretch a line 80 miles in a given direction there now without touching a piano or a sewing machine - Ladies and babies are as thick as bandicoots ... and the former are very angry if you hint there may possibly be a more desirable place of residence.'//((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 13 May 1883, Praed papers, QJO)) Despite this reassuring description of the Barcoo, after their marriage, Lizzie stayed with the Jardines in Rockhampton while her husband set up a home for her at Aberfoyle Station in western Queensland (just over 1,000 km northwest of Brisbane), breeding sheep and cattle.((For more on this property see 4pp of loose 1888 balance sheets for Aberfoyle station, now in ML. It was with a report of Queensland post service for 1864, donated to the ML with TLM-P's diaries.)) TLM-P became a partner with Jack Jardine of Aberfoyle in 1885 to try to secure Lizzie's future.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) Lizzie's brothers Morres, Hugh and Egerton subsequently worked at the property at various times.((Burke; ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Nora had hoped that Jack and Lizzie would settle at Rathdowny, both for her own pleasure in Lizzie's company and because of Lizzie's ill-health, but it was not to be.((Nora to Rosa, ?22 march 1882)) \\ . | Jack Jardine had taken charge of Vallack Point Station, near Somerset (Cape York), in 1868 when he was only 21 years old. At some time he appears to have been in the Barcoo area in Central West Queensland, as Nora wrote to Rosa reassuring her that, if Lizzie did live there, it was no longer //'the unattainable uninhabitable 'terra incognita' ... You can't stretch a line 80 miles in a given direction there now without touching a piano or a sewing machine - Ladies and babies are as thick as bandicoots ... and the former are very angry if you hint there may possibly be a more desirable place of residence.'//((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 13 May 1883, Praed papers, QJO)) Despite this reassuring description of the Barcoo, after their marriage, Lizzie stayed with the Jardines in Rockhampton while her husband set up a home for her at Aberfoyle Station in western Queensland (just over 1,000 km northwest of Brisbane), breeding sheep and cattle.((For more on this property see 4pp of loose 1888 balance sheets for Aberfoyle station, now in ML. It was with a report of Queensland post service for 1864, donated to the ML with TLM-P's diaries.)) TLM-P became a partner with Jack Jardine of Aberfoyle in 1885 to try to secure Lizzie's future.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) Lizzie's brothers Morres, Hugh and Egerton subsequently worked at the property at various times.((Burke; ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Nora had hoped that Jack and Lizzie would settle at Rathdowny, both for her own pleasure in Lizzie's company and because of Lizzie's ill-health, but it was not to be.((Nora to Rosa, ?22 march 1882)) In 1888, TLM-P visited Lizzie and her mother-in-law at Herries St, Toowoomba.((Diary, 19 August, 1 October))\\ . |
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| As with so many of TLM-P's ventures - not to mention Jack Jardine's - the property was not profitable, with the 1890s drought the last straw.((Anne Alloway and Roberta Morrison,//Tales from Bush Graves. A study of bush graves in north-west Queensland,// Brisbane: Boolarong Press, 2012, p.2.)) A key reason was its unreliable water supply.((//Otago Witness//, issue 2668, 3 May 1905, p.8.)) TLM-P's 1892 will states that the property cost him £10,070 and that, by then, the partnership had a £8,000 mortgage.((copy of will with J. Godden.)) Aberfoyle was sold after TLM-P's death and, in 1905, the Queensland Supreme Court was told that the loss that entailed was the chief reason the estate could not afford to pay the bequests.((//The Richmond River Express and Cas%%i%%no Kyogle Advertiser//, 3 November 1905, p.6.)) By 1911, Lizzie lived at //Fairview//, Old Sandgate Road, Brisbane. When Jack Jardine died from pneumonia((M-P family papers, NLA Ms 7801, folder 25, Ruth? M-P to Rosa Praed?, 1 October 1911.)) at [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]] in 1911, he worked for Messrs Aplin, Brown and Co., a major mercantile company operating in north Queensland.((Wiki entry for Aplin, Brown and Co; Jill Fleming, email to J. Godden, 18 January 2018))\\ | As with so many of TLM-P's ventures - not to mention Jack Jardine's - the property was not profitable. TLM-P's 1888 diary has numerous entries indicating that he and Jack were (unsuccessfully) trying to sell Aberfoyle. The the 1890s drought the last straw.((Anne Alloway and Roberta Morrison,//Tales from Bush Graves. A study of bush graves in north-west Queensland,// Brisbane: Boolarong Press, 2012, p.2.)) A key reason was its unreliable water supply.((//Otago Witness//, issue 2668, 3 May 1905, p.8.)) TLM-P's 1892 will states that the property cost him £10,070 and that, by then, the partnership had a £8,000 mortgage.((copy of will with J. Godden.)) Aberfoyle was sold after TLM-P's death and, in 1905, the Queensland Supreme Court was told that the loss that entailed was the chief reason the estate could not afford to pay the bequests.((//The Richmond River Express and Cas%%i%%no Kyogle Advertiser//, 3 November 1905, p.6.)) By 1911, Lizzie lived at //Fairview//, Old Sandgate Road, Brisbane. When Jack Jardine died from pneumonia((M-P family papers, NLA Ms 7801, folder 25, Ruth? M-P to Rosa Praed?, 1 October 1911.)) at [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]] in 1911, he worked for Messrs Aplin, Brown and Co., a major mercantile company operating in north Queensland.((Wiki entry for Aplin, Brown and Co; Jill Fleming, email to J. Godden, 18 January 2018))\\ |
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| Perhaps due to Lizzie's poverty as a widow, in 1924 her sister-in-law [[thomas_de_montmorenci_florence_mary_m-p|Mary M-P]] left her an annuity of £50 (i.e. paying her £50 a year for the rest of her life).((Mary Bundock, will, in F.F. Bundock papers, MLA5396)) In October 1933, Lizzie was living at Langhram, Scarborough St., Southport. The JOL has a photo of her in her later years.\\ | Perhaps due to Lizzie's poverty as a widow, in 1924 her sister-in-law [[thomas_de_montmorenci_florence_mary_m-p|Mary M-P]] left her an annuity of £50 (i.e. paying her £50 a year for the rest of her life).((Mary Bundock, will, in F.F. Bundock papers, MLA5396)) In October 1933, Lizzie was living at Langhram, Scarborough St., Southport. The JOL has a photo of her in her later years.\\ |
| 7. **Redmond** (26 October 1858((Qld Births registration no. B781/1858; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; T.A M-P's Family Bible states he was born 25 October 1858 at Cleveland but this would appear to be incorrect.)) - 21 January 1911((Qld Death C198/1911.)) 'Reddie' or 'Red', as his family called him, was born at [[wp>Eskgrove|Eskgrove]] house, Kangaroo Point, Brisbane and baptised there by the Rev. B.E. Shaw. THM-P gave his occupation at the time of Redmond's birth as 'gentleman'.((Qld Births registration no. B781/1858;‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Redmond was a family name; TLM-P visited the house at Brighton where an earlier Redmond M-P had lived.((TLM-P, Diary, 25 June 1882)) At least in 1873, Redmond attended the High School at Ipswich, then the following year, the Grammar School at Toowoomba.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.88.))\\ | 7. **Redmond** (26 October 1858((Qld Births registration no. B781/1858; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; T.A M-P's Family Bible states he was born 25 October 1858 at Cleveland but this would appear to be incorrect.)) - 21 January 1911((Qld Death C198/1911.)) 'Reddie' or 'Red', as his family called him, was born at [[wp>Eskgrove|Eskgrove]] house, Kangaroo Point, Brisbane and baptised there by the Rev. B.E. Shaw. THM-P gave his occupation at the time of Redmond's birth as 'gentleman'.((Qld Births registration no. B781/1858;‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Redmond was a family name; TLM-P visited the house at Brighton where an earlier Redmond M-P had lived.((TLM-P, Diary, 25 June 1882)) At least in 1873, Redmond attended the High School at Ipswich, then the following year, the Grammar School at Toowoomba.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.88.))\\ |
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| In 1882, the 24 year old Redman was being 'obstinate', causing problems for his step-mother while his father was away.((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)). The following year he did 'a runner' from where he was supposed to be working at Rathdowney. Nevertheless, Nora wrote that 'Red has real force of character & will do well I think, I wish that his body were as strong as his mind, but I believe that he has been stronger lately.'((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) Against this is his appearance on 22 March 1894 in the Police Court for disorderly conduct, for which he paid a 5 shilling fine.((//The Brisbane Courier//, 22 March 1894, cited by Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.88.))\\ | In 1882, the 24 year old Redman was being 'obstinate', causing problems for his stepmother while his father was away.((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)). The following year he did 'a runner' from where he was supposed to be working at Rathdowney. Nevertheless, Nora wrote that 'Red has real force of character & will do well I think, I wish that his body were as strong as his mind, but I believe that he has been stronger lately.'((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) In 1888, he disappointed TLM-P who wrote in his diary (27 October) that 'Fred saw Redmond said he looked well for him, he was on his way to' [[wp>Tagula_Island]] which is now called 'Sudest Is. near New Guinea where the new [gold] rush is, he tried to persuade him not to go, but it was no use. I am very sorry for I thought my letter to him would have prevented his leaving the Normanby but it cannot be helped now only trust that he will come back safe.' [[https://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/Members/Former-Members/Former-Members-Register/Former-Member-Details?id=1477100812|William Aplin]] 'says the Island is healthy, I hope so'. Redmond eventually returned as, on 22 March 1894, he appeared in the in the Brisbane Police Court to be fined 5 shillings for disorderly conduct.((//The Brisbane Courier//, 22 March 1894, cited by Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.88.))\\ |
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| He died aged 52 on Proserpine railway station, reportedly boarding a train so that he could see a doctor at Bowen. His death certificate indicates that he had seen a doctor the day he died, and that his cause of death was pneumonia. His sister Lizzie was the informant and described him as a 'farmer'.((Qld Death C198/1911.)) Redmond had lived in [[wp>Proserpine,_Queensland|Proserpine, north Queensland]] for over 20 years. He had pursued mining interests (the area is known for its gold) in the district and had, shortly before his death, acquired an interest in a farm at nearby Kelsey Creek.((//Bowen Independent//, 24 January 1911, p.2.)) To date we have no more information about the adult Reddie, other than a comment by his step-mother in 1880 that Alice Bundock was attached to him (Alice's sister Mary became the second wife of Redmond's eldest brother Thomas de M. M-P).((Nora to Rosie, 29 December [1880?], Praed papers, QJO OM64-1, 4/2/1-4)) The attachment did not come to anything and they both died unmarried. Red had no known partner nor children.\\ | Redmond died aged 52 on Proserpine railway station, reportedly boarding a train so that he could see a doctor at Bowen. His death certificate indicates that he had seen a doctor the day he died, and that his cause of death was pneumonia. His sister Lizzie was the informant and described him as a 'farmer'.((Qld Death C198/1911.)) Probably Redmond still had hopes of finding gold, as lived in [[wp>Proserpine,_Queensland|Proserpine, north Queensland]] for over 20 years, an area is known for its gold. Shortly before his death, he had acquired an interest in a farm at nearby Kelsey Creek.((//Bowen Independent//, 24 January 1911, p.2.)) To date we have no more information about the adult Reddie, other than a comment by his stepmother in 1880 that Alice Bundock was attached to him (Alice's sister Mary became the second wife of Redmond's eldest brother Tom).((Nora to Rosie, 29 December [1880?], Praed papers, QJO OM64-1, 4/2/1-4)) The attachment did not come to anything and they both died unmarried. Redmond had no known partner nor children.\\ |
| The photo, from TLM-P's album, is of Reddie (right) and his brother Hugh. {{:reddie_and_hugh.jpg?300|}} **For more photos, click on [[Reddie]]**.\\ | The photo, from TLM-P's album, is of Reddie (right) and his brother Hugh. {{:reddie_and_hugh.jpg?300|}} **For more photos, click on [[Reddie]]**.\\ |
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| In 1882, when TLM-P was away in England, his family became very worried about Hugh. He was apparently working for the law firm Little & Brown but was seen as lazy, over-weight and succumbing to the 'frightful yearning for drink'. His family, including TLM-P, wrote to him, hoping 'it will have some effect upon him.'((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)) and his eldest brother Tom offered him a home where he hoped work 'in the healthy rough bush would do him good'. One of Tom's letter implies that Hugh was guilty of the 'despicable' crimes of 'drunkenness and theft'; he attributed Hugh and Morres' poor character as due to being too young when they went to school as well as the 'want of principle among the Tasmanian boys'.((T de M. M-P letters to Nora, 13 & 27 August & 3 September 1882, NLA, Box4?, MS 7801.)) After TLM-P returned, Hugh again ran away - initially, it was thought he had joined a travelling theatre group. His venture into independence was not a success and finally Hugh, via his brother Hervey, obtained money from his father to return home.((Nora to Rosa, feb? date? 1883)) Nora considered he had returned 'so manly & self reliant & so much improved in every way'. His brother Tom wanted Hugh to be a bushman, but Nora did not think his talents lay that way.((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) She was probably correct.\\ | In 1882, when TLM-P was away in England, his family became very worried about Hugh. He was apparently working for the law firm Little & Brown but was seen as lazy, over-weight and succumbing to the 'frightful yearning for drink'. His family, including TLM-P, wrote to him, hoping 'it will have some effect upon him.'((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882)) and his eldest brother Tom offered him a home where he hoped work 'in the healthy rough bush would do him good'. One of Tom's letter implies that Hugh was guilty of the 'despicable' crimes of 'drunkenness and theft'; he attributed Hugh and Morres' poor character as due to being too young when they went to school as well as the 'want of principle among the Tasmanian boys'.((T de M. M-P letters to Nora, 13 & 27 August & 3 September 1882, NLA, Box4?, MS 7801.)) After TLM-P returned, Hugh again ran away - initially, it was thought he had joined a travelling theatre group. His venture into independence was not a success and finally Hugh, via his brother Hervey, obtained money from his father to return home.((Nora to Rosa, feb? date? 1883)) Nora considered he had returned 'so manly & self reliant & so much improved in every way'. His brother Tom wanted Hugh to be a bushman, but Nora did not think his talents lay that way.((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) She was probably correct.\\ |
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| By the late 1880s or early 1890s Hugh, like his brother Morres, was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Isobel Hannah wrote that he died 'from sunstroke on a lonely track between Annie Vale and Doongmabulla', in central Queensland.((Isobel Hannah, 'The Royal Descent of the First Postmaster-General of Queensland', Queensland Geographical Journal, vol. LV, 1953-54, p.12.)) He never married but possibly had two children.\\ | By 1888, Hugh, like his brother Morres, was living on Aberfoyle Station, jointly owned by his father and his brother-in-law, John Jardine.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) In his diary of 20 October 1888, TLM-P noted that he had written to John Jardine and to Hugh, offering the latter 'that on my return [to Australia after going back to the UK] if he continued steady I would double his stock up to the value of £200 should stock be below that value any salary due to him to count, but stock must be his own bona fide, paid for and no debts.' If Hugh did achieve this goal, he did not benefit from it for long. Eight years later ad his trying to be a bushman, Hugh died 'from sunstroke on a lonely track between Annie Vale and Doongmabulla', in central Queensland.((Isobel Hannah, 'The Royal Descent of the First Postmaster-General of Queensland', Queensland Geographical Journal, vol. LV, 1953-54, p.12.)) He never married but possibly had two children.\\ |
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| 12. **Egerton** (5 October 1866((Qld Births registration no. B6322; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, A// Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846.))- 1 September 1936). Egerton was born at Maroon((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and was only 2 years-old when his mother died. 'Egerton' appears to be a family name through TLM-P's mother. Significantly for TLM-P, it had aristocratic connections as the [[wp>Egerton_family|family name]] of the Dukes of Bridgewater and Sutherland, as well as of various earls. In 1882, TLM-P stayed with John Skynner Egerton Bishop who lived at Brighton.((TLM-P, Diary 27 June 1882)) **For more, click on [[Bishop]].** \\ | 12. **Egerton** (5 October 1866((Qld Births registration no. B6322; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, A// Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846.))- 1 September 1936). Egerton was born at Maroon((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and was only 2 years-old when his mother died. 'Egerton' appears to be a family name through TLM-P's mother. Significantly for TLM-P, it had aristocratic connections as the [[wp>Egerton_family|family name]] of the Dukes of Bridgewater and Sutherland, as well as of various earls. In 1882, TLM-P stayed with John Skynner Egerton Bishop who lived at Brighton.((TLM-P, Diary 27 June 1882)) **For more, click on [[Bishop]].** \\ |
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| Egerton inherited his grandfather's (and mother's?) love of poetry, publishing his //Poems// (Brisbane: Watson, Ferguson & Co. Printers) in 1893.((This 16pp booklet was selected for digitalisation by the John Oxley Library in 2016, but it doesn't appear to have happened yet.)) Poetry was a skill likely to have been nurtured by his step-mother. Egerton was 6 years old when Nora married his father, and she agreed to help educate him home at Maroon.((Woolcock, Helen, M. John Thearle, Kay Saunders, '"My beloved chloroform'. Attitudes to Childbearing in Colonial Queensland: a case study', //Social History of Medicine//, 1997, p.441; Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 25 July 1880, JOL.)) He went to school (at least May 1878) at the High School, Hobart((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90.)) and at some stage school in Brisbane, boarding nearby, perhaps with his brother Hugh at his brother Hervey's place.((Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 14 March 1883)). In 1883, his step-mother described Egerton as 'growing very handsome, is steady & affectionate, & tho he has not set the Brisbane river on fire, has made himself a great favourite with his masters. He was 17 last Oct. & I do not think when he comes home this time, that he will go back to school again.'((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) In around 1888, he appears to have tried working on Bulli station with his brother Tom de M M-P, but he did not think he was suited to managing a station.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90.))\\ | Egerton suffered a life-threatening accident when he was 19 years old. The //Courier Mail// reported that, on Christmas day 1885, Edgerton was thrown from his young horse during a race with his cousin Charles Haly junior at Maroon : 'and seriously injured in the head', remaining unconscious for six days. 'On Saturday last he spoke for the first time, saying "Good-bye" to his brother, Mr. Hervey Murray-Prior, who was about to return to Brisbane. Information was received in town yesterday that the sufferer was still conscious, and that great hopes were **now** entertained of his recovery.'((8 January 1885, my emphasis)) It is likely, but not known, that he had permanent injuries from such a severe accident.\\ |
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| | Egerton inherited his grandfather's (and mother's?) love of poetry, publishing his //Poems// (Brisbane: Watson, Ferguson & Co. Printers) in 1893.((This 16pp booklet was selected for digitalisation by the John Oxley Library in 2016, but it doesn't appear to have happened yet.)) Poetry was a skill likely to have been nurtured by his step-mother. Egerton was 6 years old when Nora married his father, and she agreed to help educate him home at Maroon.((Woolcock, Helen, M. John Thearle, Kay Saunders, '"My beloved chloroform'. Attitudes to Childbearing in Colonial Queensland: a case study', //Social History of Medicine//, 1997, p.441; Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 25 July 1880, JOL.)) He went to school (at least May 1878) at the High School, Hobart((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90.)) and at some stage school in Brisbane, boarding nearby, perhaps with his brother Hugh at his brother Hervey's place.((Nora to Rosa, Praed papers, 14 March 1883)). In 1883, his step-mother described Egerton as 'growing very handsome, is steady & affectionate, & tho he has not set the Brisbane river on fire, has made himself a great favourite with his masters. He was 17 last Oct. & I do not think when he comes home this time, that he will go back to school again.'((Nora to Rosa, 3 December 1883)) TLM-P and Egerton's eldest brother Tom discussed his future on 14 October 1888: ' had a long chat with Tom about Egerton ... It is a question whether it would not be better for Eggy to wait till my return then to see how he gets on and whether bale to do the business.' Perhaps this referred to working on Bulli station, as he did with his brother Tom some time around 1888. Tom concluded that his brother was not very well suited to managing a station.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.90; TLM-P, Diary 1888, 14 October.))\\ |
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| {{:egerton_poetry.jpg?300|}} Cover of Egerton's poems, ML A821/P658.2/1A1. **For more, click on [[Egerton's poetry]].**\\ | {{:egerton_poetry.jpg?300|}} Cover of Egerton's poems, ML A821/P658.2/1A1. **For more, click on [[Egerton's poetry]].**\\ |
| Later generations believed that, around five months after Egerton's birth, another child was born to TLM-P, this time with [[wait_there_s_more|Mary Ingoldsby]].\\ | Later generations believed that, around five months after Egerton's birth, another child was born to TLM-P, this time with [[wait_there_s_more|Mary Ingoldsby]].\\ |
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| In 1862, Thomas de M. M-P and Morres went to 'Mr. Shaw's school, Brisbane': this was the Collegiate School - a Church of England school whose headmaster was the Rev. Bowyer E. Shaw. It was designed for 'sons of the gentry' and charged accordingly: £80 per year for boarders. Perhaps for that reason, it did not last long.((//The Brisbane Courier//, 17 February 1912, p.12)) In 1862 Tom won the prize for English and Morres the Fourth class prize for Latin.((The Courier, 22 December 1862, p.3)) \\ | |
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| Perhaps because Mr Shaw's school closed, Thomas de M. M-P reportedly attended the High School in Hobart in the early 1860s.((Table Talk ((12 June 1902, p.17.)) His brothers also attended the School. Patricia Clarke asserts that Matilda and her children avoided the worst of Brisbane's summer heat by spending some summers in Hobart. Consequently, Matilda's sons Morres, Hervey, Redmond, Hugh and Egerton, 'became boarders at the private, highly regarded, non-sectarian High School in Hobart'.((Patricia Clarke, //Rosa! Rosa!// p.22; //The Telegraph// (Brisbane), 29 March 1901 p.8; Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p. 43 TLM-P diary 3 April 1862)). The headmaster was the Rev. R. D. Poulett-Harris and it attracted boys from various regions of Australia. The school's eminence lasted until 1878; it closed in 1885.((E. L. French, 'Harris, Richard Deodatus Poulett (1817–1899)', //Australian Dictionary of Biography//, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/harris-richard-deodatus-poulett-3726/text5855, published first in hardcopy 1972, accessed online 14 August 2018.)) It is not to be confused with the later state-run Hobart High School which operated 1913-66, nor with its prestigious rival, the Hutchins School.\\ | |
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| {{:domain_house_3.jpg?300|Domain House - previously the High School, Hobart [[http:///ontheconvicttrail.blogspot.com/2013/03/domain-house-high-school-of-hobart-town.html|Domain House - previously the High School, Hobart]]}} Domain House - previously the High School, Hobart, from ontheconvicttrail.blogspot.com.\\ | |
| {{:abbottalbum_136188836.jpg?300|}} The High School, courtesy Libraries Tasmania. Both photos with thanks to Margaret Dalkin. | |
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| Hervey M-P was reported as having initially attended Ipswich Grammar School where he was 'a distinguished pupil'. He later attended the High School, Tasmania, 'where he gained one or two important scholarships'.((//The Queenslander// 8 January 1887 p.55.)) While at Ipswich Grammar, in 1872, Hervey was awarded The Tiffin Scholarship worth £20 and his brother Hugh the Thorn Scholarship worth £12.((//Queenslander//, 12 May 1932 cited in Darbyshire)) | |
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| {{:poulett-harrisautas001131820987.jpg?200|}} Rev Richard Deodatus Poulett-Harris, headmaster 1857-85, in Masonic costume. He was the first Grand Master of Tasmanian Masons. source: Tasmanian State Library and Archive Service with thanks to Margaret Dalkin.\\ | |
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| Even given the school's reputation, it was a long way to go for a cool summer retreat and difficult to understand sending young boys from Queensland to school there. One possibility is that Matilda had relatives in Tasmania. No obvious connections have been found but there are a number of Harpurs listed in the [[https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/?|Tasmainian Names Index (thanks to Margaret Dalkin)]]. One consideration was the strong belief at the time that Queensland's tropical climate sapped the vitality of young Britons, resulting in a degenerate 'race'.((Shirleene Robinson and Emily Wilson, 'Preserving the traditions of a "great race": youth and national character in Queensland, 1859-1918', //Journal of the Royal Australian Historical Society//, 94:2, December 2008, pp.166-85; Warwick Anderson, //The Cultivation of Whiteness. Science, Health and Racial Destiny in Australia//, Melbourne: Melbourne University Press, 2002; David Walker, //Anxious Nation: Australia and the Rise of Asia 1850-1939//, Brisbane, 1999.)) Certainly when the school advertised in Queensland, it emphasised its healthy location.((//Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser//, 7 January 1869, p.2)) Yet there were limits to the fear of degeneration: only the boys were sent to school while all the girls were taught at home by governesses, Matilda, Nora and older siblings. And why not send the boys to a prestigious school in Sydney, for example, The King's School?\\ | |
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| When we consider the early death and alcoholism of some of Matilda's sons, to the modern mind a question that can't be avoided is: what kind of experience did the boys have at school in Tasmania, so far away from family? Was it simply because, as their eldest brother thought when he wrote to his step-mother deploring the character of his brothers Hugh and Morres, that they had been too young to be sent so far from home?((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, 14/36)) If TLM-p's plans for Egerton are any guide, the boys were sent away to school when they were around 10 years old. This is confirmed by Hugh, then 11 years old, being at school in Hobart when his father and Nora married.((Woolcock, Helen, M. John Thearle, Kay Saunders, '"My beloved chloroform'. Attitudes to Childbearing in Colonial Queensland: a case study', //Social History of Medicine//, 1997, p.441.)) Matilda's illness and death, however, may have meant that the boys were sent there at a younger age.((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 21 November 1874, Praed papers, Box 4, QJO.))\\ | |
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| This was the age of 'spare the rod and spoil the child', when severe physical punishment was routine in schools. Yet the High School's Headmaster, the Rev. Poulett Harris, 'was charged with assaulting boys with a cane in March 1860 and June 1868, the first case being dismissed and the second settled out of court'. In the first case, the boy apparently was returned to school by his father; in the second the issue appeared to be that the boy was no longer a pupil there, and had grabbed the cane from Harris when the later tried to cane him. Were these incidents a reflection of a too-ready recourse to the cane, even for this time? Is it relevant that Harris was 'prone to depression', with a daughter who was committed to a mental hospital? What was the impact on him when his 5-year old son burned to death in a bonfire accident in 1860?((E. L. French, 'Harris, Richard Deodatus Poulett (1817–1899)', //Australian Dictionary of Biography//, National Centre of Biography, Australian National University, http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/harris-richard-deodatus-poulett-3726/text5855, published first in hardcopy 1972, accessed online 14 August 2018; //Launceston Examiner//, 13 March 1860, p.2 & 13 March 1860, p.2; //The Mercury//, 4 June 1868, p.1; The Maitland Mercury, 7 January 1860, p.7.)) Whatever was the case, TLM-P was satisfied, as he allowed himself to be named as a referee when the School advertised for Queensland pupils.((E.g., //Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser//, 7 January 1869, p.2 and 21 February 1871, p.1; //The Brisbane Courier//, 31 August 1872, p.1.)) In January 1877 it was reported that three Queensland boys were at the school, including 'young Prior', only identified as TLM-P's son, winning a special prize for proficiency in French. It is not known if the two other 'Queensland boys' were his brothers.((//The Brisbane Courier//, 11 January 1877, p.2.)) \\ | |
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| We need to be cautious assuming childhood difficulties resulted in adult problems. Heavy drinking by all classes was a feature of Queensland colonial life, so perhaps no other explanation is needed than the boys reflecting the social conditions around them.((Ross Fitzgerald, //From the Dreaming to 1915. A History of Queensland//,St Lucia: University of Queensland Press, 1982,pp.277,305.)) Additionally, former pupils admired Poulett-Harris enough to erect this memorial to him, now in the Queens Domain Hobart.{{:poulett-harris_memorial.jpg?100|Photo courtesy Margaret Dalkin}} Yet doubt remains: why did the younger boys have such difficult lives? Why did their loving step-mother later find them so very difficult, and their father write about their behaviour, that it was 'all very hard, and cut me up.'((TLM-P diary, 16 August 1882))\\ | |
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| {{:lyndhurst.jpg?300|}} The M-P family papers includes this photo, identified on the back as Lyndhurst, New Town Road, Hobart Town, Tasmania.((Provenance: J. Godden)) Lyndhurst was a popular name and nothing has yet been found about the homes in this photo, but does it hold a clue to why the children were sent to Hobart? Or was it where Matilda and her children stayed when they went to Tasmania in November 1863- April 1864?((TLM-P diary, November 1863-April 1864)) or where Matilda stayed when she returned to Hobart in February 1868, accompanying by a daughter and two sons as well as Maroon employee Mr Pearse and his wife.((//The Tasmanian Times//, 3 February 1868, p.2; //The Mercury//, 3 February 1868, p.2.))\\ | |
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| **Key Genealogical Sources**: Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, pp.49-50; TLM-P, ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; [Thomas M-P], [Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014; Thomas Bertram M-P, //Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty//, ms, n.d, pp.7-14, NLA; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors//, ms written 1901-05 NLA Nq929.2M984.\\ | **Key Genealogical Sources**: Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, pp.49-50; TLM-P, ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; [Thomas M-P], [Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014; Thomas Bertram M-P, //Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty//, ms, n.d, pp.7-14, NLA; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors//, ms written 1901-05 NLA Nq929.2M984.\\ |
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| **N.B.** The above references give contradictory information regarding names and key dates, hence the references to births, deaths and marriage registrations. See __ BROKEN-LINK:https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/querySubmit.m?ReportName=BirthSearch,notingLINK-BROKEN__ that certificates need to be bought to find out more than year and parents' names. | **N.B.** The above references give contradictory information regarding names and key dates, hence the references to births, deaths and marriage registrations. The certificates need to be bought to find out more than year and parents' names. |
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