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 For TLM-P and at least one son and two grandsons, a core of their family identity was the belief that they were descended from powerful kings. We can't understand TLM-P without knowing about this belief, and its flaws. The first part of the section on [[edward_i_butler_morres_and_lodge_families|"Air castles"]] examines the belief but, sorry, we provide no basis for a claim on Buckingham Palace!\\ For TLM-P and at least one son and two grandsons, a core of their family identity was the belief that they were descended from powerful kings. We can't understand TLM-P without knowing about this belief, and its flaws. The first part of the section on [[edward_i_butler_morres_and_lodge_families|"Air castles"]] examines the belief but, sorry, we provide no basis for a claim on Buckingham Palace!\\
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-The next part traces the Prior part of the Murray-Prior family from the 13th to the 18th century. It is short on royalty, but big on drama. There are land grabs, winner-takes-all politics, riotous living, elopement, murder, blackmail, assassination, illegitimate babies, high-minded defence of Ireland, bankruptcy, religious conflict, key battles of the British army.... At the end of this period, on the initiative of the great Tom Prior, the Priors and Murrays combined to become the Murray-Priors, and soon after begin the long tradition of always naming the first-born son Thomas. After that we move to Australia with TLM-P's life and that of his descendants.\\+The next part traces the Prior part of the Murray-Prior family from the 13th to the 18th century. It is short on royalty, but big on drama. There are land grabs, winner-takes-all politics, riotous living, elopement, murder, blackmail, assassination, illegitimate babies, high-minded defence of Ireland, bankruptcy, religious conflict, key battles of the British army.... At the end of this period, on the initiative of the great Tom Prior, the Priors and Murrays combined to become the Murray-Priors, and soon after begin the long tradition of naming the first-born son Thomas. After that we move to Australia with TLM-P's life and that of his descendants.\\
  
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 One feature of note is how many of the men married twice, with their first wife dying relatively young. We don't know if they all died due to childbirth, but we do know that childbirth before the mid-1900s was extremely dangerous, e.g. in England and Wales in the mid-1850s, for every 200 births, 1 mother died.((Irvine Loudon, 'Maternal Mortality 1880–1950. Some Regional and International Comparisons' //Social History of Medicine//, 1:2, August 1988, pp.183–228, https://doi.org/10.1093/shm/1.2.183))\\ One feature of note is how many of the men married twice, with their first wife dying relatively young. We don't know if they all died due to childbirth, but we do know that childbirth before the mid-1900s was extremely dangerous, e.g. in England and Wales in the mid-1850s, for every 200 births, 1 mother died.((Irvine Loudon, 'Maternal Mortality 1880–1950. Some Regional and International Comparisons' //Social History of Medicine//, 1:2, August 1988, pp.183–228, https://doi.org/10.1093/shm/1.2.183))\\
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-Another largely missing factor, particularly the further back we go, is the death of children. When the record gives the number of children, it usually refers just to //surviving// children - and sometimes, just the sons. Early childhood was even more dangerous than childbirth – e.g. in 1840s England, 1 in every 5 children died before their 5th birthday.((David Wright, //Sick Kids.// //The History of the Hospital for Sick Children//, University of Toronto Press, 2016, p.9.)) This history, as with other family histories, is haunted by the ghosts of innumerable child deaths, grieved for but unrecorded.\\ +Another largely missing factor, particularly the further back we go, is the death of children. When the record gives the number of children, it usually refers just to //surviving// children - and sometimes, just the sons. Early childhood was even more dangerous than childbirth – e.g. in 1840s England, 1 in every 5 children died before their 5th birthday.((David Wright, //Sick Kids.// //The History of the Hospital for Sick Children//, University of Toronto Press, 2016, p.9.)) As well, miscarriages and stillbirths were usually not recorded. This history, as with other family histories, is haunted by the ghosts of innumerable child deaths, grieved for but missing from the record.\\ 
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 The quality of the photographs vary, largely depending on the original. Don't forget that you can click on any of them to enlarge. And if you have other photographs that help illustrate the family story, please send them to us.\\ The quality of the photographs vary, largely depending on the original. Don't forget that you can click on any of them to enlarge. And if you have other photographs that help illustrate the family story, please send them to us.\\
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 ==== I'm a member of the family: why aren't I or my parents named? ==== ==== I'm a member of the family: why aren't I or my parents named? ====
-It's because you are alive, so that's the good news! We haven't given details of living people or their parents due to the possibility of identity thief. We have written a considerable amount about the parents of the oldest M-P generation, but this is only available to the immediate family. +It's because you are alive, so that's the good news! We haven't given details of living people or their parents due to the possibility of identity thief. We have written a considerable amount about these latest generations which is available to the immediate family. 
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 ==== Thomas M-Ps ==== ==== Thomas M-Ps ====
  
-A glance at the sidebar of this family history reveals one of the most remarkable aspects of this line of the Murray-Priors: the tradition of naming the eldest son Thomas. It started with the Prior family, with the first known Thomas Prior living in the early 1300s, as described in [[priors_in_england|]]. Some 300 years later, another Thomas Prior moved to Ireland and, with his son Thomas, established the family there - see [[priors_in_ireland_1636-c.1803]]. The most famous in the family, another [[thomas_prior_m-p_family_founder|Thomas (Tom) Prior ]], left a will which ensured the surname became Murray Prior/Murray-Prior. After that, there was a John and an Andrew Murray-Prior, then Thomas Murray-Prior, born in 1773. Since then, there has been an unbroken line of elder sons called Thomas. Perhaps as remarkable, given the past's high infant mortality, is that all those Thomases survived to reach adulthood and become parent (though we know of one first-born son not named Thomas as he died shortly after birth.It is a tradition that has resulted in the third Thomas Lodge M-P, and nine generations of an unbroken line of Thomas Murray-Priors. \\+A glance at the sidebar of this family history reveals one of the most remarkable aspects of this line of the Murray-Priors: the tradition of naming the eldest son Thomas. It started with the Prior family, with the first known Thomas Prior living in the early 1300s, as described in [[priors_in_england|]]. Some 300 years later, another Thomas Prior moved to Ireland and, with his son Thomas, established the family there - see [[priors_in_ireland_1636-c.1803]]. The most famous in the family, another [[thomas_prior_m-p_family_founder|Thomas (Tom) Prior ]], left a will which ensured his nephew changed his surname from Murray to Prior. He did, but did all he could to ensure the Murrays were not forgotten. After that, there was a John and an Andrew Murray Prior, then Thomas Murray Prior, born in 1773. \\ 
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 +Since that Thomas was born in 1773, there has been an unbroken line of elder surviving sons called Thomas. Perhaps as remarkable, given the past's high infant mortality, is that all those Thomases survived to reach adulthood and have a son Thomas. It is a tradition that has resulted in nine generations of an unbroken line of Thomas Priors/Murray-Priors. \\
  
  
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