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For TLM-P and at least one son and two grandsons, a core of their family identity was the belief that they were descended from powerful kings. We can't understand TLM-P without knowing about this belief, and its flaws. The first part of the section on [[edward_i_butler_morres_and_lodge_families|" | For TLM-P and at least one son and two grandsons, a core of their family identity was the belief that they were descended from powerful kings. We can't understand TLM-P without knowing about this belief, and its flaws. The first part of the section on [[edward_i_butler_morres_and_lodge_families|" | ||
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- | The next part traces the Prior part of the Murray-Prior family from the 13th to the 18th century. It is short on royalty, but big on drama. There are land grabs, winner-takes-all politics, riotous living, elopement, murder, blackmail, assassination, | + | The next part traces the Prior part of the Murray-Prior family from the 13th to the 18th century. It is short on royalty, but big on drama. There are land grabs, winner-takes-all politics, riotous living, elopement, murder, blackmail, assassination, |
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One feature of note is how many of the men married twice, with their first wife dying relatively young. We don't know if they all died due to childbirth, but we do know that childbirth before the mid-1900s was extremely dangerous, e.g. in England and Wales in the mid-1850s, for every 200 births, 1 mother died.((Irvine Loudon, ' | One feature of note is how many of the men married twice, with their first wife dying relatively young. We don't know if they all died due to childbirth, but we do know that childbirth before the mid-1900s was extremely dangerous, e.g. in England and Wales in the mid-1850s, for every 200 births, 1 mother died.((Irvine Loudon, ' | ||
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- | Another largely missing factor, particularly the further back we go, is the death of children. When the record gives the number of children, it usually refers just to // | + | Another largely missing factor, particularly the further back we go, is the death of children. When the record gives the number of children, it usually refers just to // |
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The quality of the photographs vary, largely depending on the original. Don't forget that you can click on any of them to enlarge. And if you have other photographs that help illustrate the family story, please send them to us.\\ | The quality of the photographs vary, largely depending on the original. Don't forget that you can click on any of them to enlarge. And if you have other photographs that help illustrate the family story, please send them to us.\\ | ||
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==== I'm a member of the family: why aren't I or my parents named? ==== | ==== I'm a member of the family: why aren't I or my parents named? ==== | ||
- | It's because you are alive, so that's the good news! We haven' | + | It's because you are alive, so that's the good news! We haven' |
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+ | ==== Thomas M-Ps ==== | ||
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+ | A glance at the sidebar of this family history reveals one of the most remarkable aspects of this line of the Murray-Priors: the tradition of naming the eldest son Thomas. It started with the Prior family, with the first known Thomas Prior living in the early 1300s, as described in [[priors_in_england|]]. Some 300 years later, another Thomas Prior moved to Ireland and, with his son Thomas, established | ||
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+ | Since that Thomas was born in 1773, there has been an unbroken line of elder surviving sons called Thomas. Perhaps as remarkable, given the past's high infant mortality, is that all those Thomases survived to reach adulthood and have a son Thomas. It is a tradition that has resulted in nine generations of an unbroken line of Thomas Priors/ | ||
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