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| ====== Meta Hobbs', Eileen Hickson's & Robert M-P's children ====== | ====== Meta Hobbs', Eileen Hickson's & Robert M-P's children with direct descendants ====== |
| The same pattern of drastically reduced child-bearing is seen in TLM-P's second marriage as in his first. He and Nora had eight children, of whom only three (Meta, Eileen and Robert) had children of their own. All three had grandchildren.\\ | The same pattern of drastically reduced child-bearing is seen in TLM-P's second marriage as in his first. He and Nora had eight children, of whom only three (Meta, Eileen and Robert) had children of their own. All three had grandchildren.\\ |
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| 2. John Maurice Hamilton Hickson (4 April 1906 - 1993) married September 1929 to Lillian Killen and had 3 sons and 2 daughters.\\ | 2. John Maurice Hamilton Hickson (4 April 1906 - 1993) married September 1929 to Lillian Killen and had 3 sons and 2 daughters.\\ |
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| 3. Brian Murray-Prior Hickson (11 May 1907 - 7 November 1943). In 1937 he was Manager for Riley Newman & Co. at Warialda.((//Warialda Standard and Northern Districts' Advertiser//, 25 January 1937, p.2.)) He married Margaret Gaden Day and had a daughter and a son. He enlisted during World War II, becoming a corporal in D Company, 18 Platoon, 2/30 Australian Infantry Battalion. He died of ulcers and dysentery at Sonkurai when a Prisoner of War on the infamous Thai-Burma railway. He is buried at Thanbyuzayat Cemetery, Grave A13.A.3, Myanmar (Burma). {{:brian_hickson_grave.jpg?400|}}((See [[http://www.230battalion.org.au/Gallery/albums/Upload/0706/070625003.jpg]] and [[http://www.230battalion.org.au/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4449/]]))\\ | 3. Brian Murray-Prior Hickson (11 May 1907 - 7 November 1943). In 1937 he was Manager for Riley Newman & Co. at Warialda.((//Warialda Standard and Northern Districts' Advertiser//, 25 January 1937, p.2.)) He married Margaret Gaden Day and had a daughter and a son. He enlisted during World War II, becoming a corporal in D Company, 18 Platoon, 2/30 Australian Infantry Battalion. He died of ulcers and dysentery at Sonkurai when a Prisoner of War on the infamous Thai-Burma railway. He is buried at Thanbyuzayat Cemetery, Grave A13.A.3, Myanmar (Burma). {{:brian_hickson_grave.jpg?400|}}((See [[http://www.230battalion.org.au/Gallery/albums/Upload/0706/070625003.jpg]] and [[http://www.230battalion.org.au/Gallery/displayimage.php?pid=4449/]] and Australian Red Cross Society, National Office (2017-05-15). Hickson, B M P (Brian Murray Prior), NX41262.))\\ |
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| 4. George Harvey Foster Hickson (15 March 1909 - ?) He and his wife had no children.\\ | 4. George Harvey Foster Hickson (15 March 1909 - ?) See in the public section of this website as he had no known descendants.\\ |
| | 5. Rowan Darvall Hickson (28 November 1911 - 3 May 1931) See in the public section of this website as he had no known descendants.\\ |
| 5. Rowan Darvall Hickson (28 November 1911 - 3 May 1931) he remained single, and had no children.\\ | |
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| ====== Robert and Estella (Stella) M-P's children ====== | ====== Robert and Estella (Stella) M-P's children ====== |
| The 5 children with a friend in the garden of their childhood home at 1 Yerton Avenue, Hunters Hill: (back from left): David; (friend Phyllis Rolfe); Nora with Molly on her lap; front: Sterling, Phyllis: {{:dad_friend_and_siblings_enhance.jpg?400|}}\\ | The 5 children with a friend in the garden of their childhood home at 1 Yerton Avenue, Hunters Hill: (back from left): David; (friend Phyllis Rolfe); Nora with Molly on her lap; front: Sterling, Phyllis: {{:dad_friend_and_siblings_enhance.jpg?400|}}\\ |
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| 1. **Nora** Estella (1909((NSW birth registration 14986)) - 1984((SMH death notice, 5 May 1984))). Like her sisters, she went to school at {{https://www.sceggs.nsw.edu.au|SCEGGS}}. She was active in youth groups including the Crusaders and the Brownies, the latter as a member and, when adult, leader. She trained as a nurse at Royal North Shore Hospital during 1936-37, reputedly too late to be accepted in general nurse training, but able to train as a children's nurse. After qualifying, she worked at the War Memorial Hospital in Cas%%i%%no from September 1938 to March 1940. She then appears to have nursed in the south-west town of Young as she is remembered as the midwife for a birth there in 1940.((Don Seton Wilkinson email to J. Godden, 24 June 2019.)) By 1944, she was employed as a nursing Sister by the [[https://www.royalfarwest.org.au/|Royal Far West Society]], with her headquarters at Inverell.((Royal Far West Childrens Scheme, //Annual Report//, 1944)) The work involved much travelling around the local area. For more, click on [[**nursing with Royal Far West**]].\\ | 1. **Nora** Estella (1909((NSW birth registration 14986)) - 1984((SMH death notice, 5 May 1984))) See in the public section of this website as she had no known direct descendants. \\ |
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| Nora kept up her connection to Young, as she left the Royal Far West Children's Scheme early in 1949 to marry((Royal Far West Childrens Scheme, //Annual Report//, 1949)) widower Lawrence Ashley Frederick Boyd (known as Ashley). He had a sheep/wheat property, Eldorado, near [[wp>Young,_New_South_Wales|Young, NSW]]. Ashley had two daughters by his first marriage, but had no children with Nora. My (Judith Godden) recollection of her is someone who could be very kind but also very tactless, while her extensive travelling in later life did not change her narrow view of the world.\\ | |
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| The next three photos are of Nora((Provenance: J. Godden.)): the 1st with her elder brother E. Sterling M-P; the 2nd probably on the day she qualified as a nurse; the 3rd with her mother (right): {{:nora_sterling_cropped_resized.jpg?250|}} {{:nora_mp_boyd.jpg?250|}} {{:nora_and_gran.jpg?250|}}\\ | |
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| For more photos, click on [[Nora Boyd photos]]\\ | |
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| 2. Edgar **Sterling** (16 May 1911 - 22 February 2010((SMH death notice, 25 February 2010.))) \\ | 2. Edgar **Sterling** (16 May 1911 - 22 February 2010((SMH death notice, 25 February 2010.))) \\ |
| He never forgave his parents for their choice of his given names, but chose to be known Sterling as the lesser of two evils. He was born in Prince Edward Parade, Hunters Hill, with his birth witnessed by Hunters' Hills' GP, Dr H. S. Lloyd and 'Nurse Martin'.((NSW Birth certificate for E.S. M-P, no 16518)) He attended [[http://www.sydgram.nsw.edu.au|Sydney Grammar]] until he was around 15, when his father found him work at the Perpetual Trustee Company. He was later to deprecate his schooling as being so hidebound with its stress on unthinking obedience (such as the poems [[wp>Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade|The Charge of the Light Brigade]] and [[wp>Casabianca_(poem)]]). He was, however, good at mathematics with a prize to show for it in 1924 when he was 13 years old. That talent would stand him in good stead not only in his work, but as honorary treasurer of the Bellingen RSL Club in his later life.((the mathematics prize was a book, //The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World// by Edward Creasy - inevitably, as with other book prizes, it appears largely unread.)) He was a keen sportsman, a member of the Mona Vale Surf Life saving Club and a good amateur boxer. A photo in the Ryde Library of the 1932 Hunters Hill Rugby team describes him (middle row, second from left) as its Honorary secretary. To see click [[http://library.ryde.nsw.gov.au/lsphotos/350245.jpg|rugby]].\\ | He never forgave his parents for their choice of his given names, but chose to be known Sterling as the lesser of two evils. He was born in Prince Edward Parade, Hunters Hill, with his birth witnessed by Hunters' Hills' GP, Dr H. S. Lloyd and 'Nurse Martin'.((NSW Birth certificate for E.S. M-P, no 16518)) He attended [[http://www.sydgram.nsw.edu.au|Sydney Grammar]] until he was around 15, when his father found him work at the Perpetual Trustee Company. He was later to deprecate his schooling as being so hidebound with its stress on unthinking obedience (such as the poems [[wp>Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade|The Charge of the Light Brigade]] and [[wp>Casabianca_(poem)]]). He was, however, good at mathematics with a prize to show for it in 1924 when he was 13 years old. That talent would stand him in good stead not only in his work, but as honorary treasurer of the Bellingen RSL Club in his later life.((the mathematics prize was a book, //The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World// by Edward Creasy - inevitably, as with other book prizes, it appears largely unread.)) He was a keen sportsman, a member of the Mona Vale Surf Life saving Club and a good amateur boxer. A photo in the Ryde Library of the 1932 Hunters Hill Rugby Union team describes him (middle row, second from left) as its Honorary secretary.\\ |
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| He married Brenda Isabel Pottie (15 July 1914-18 July 2008((SMH death notice, 23 July 2008.)) at St Stephen's Presbyterian Church on 29 November 1938.((The pending wedding was reported with a photo of glowing Brenda and her bridesmaid Molly M-P in the //Sydney Morning Herald//, 29 November 1938, p.4. They were pictured in the rose garden at Brenda's mother's home, 6 Veret Street, Hunters Hill)) Brenda (known also as Isabel and Isa) had grown up at Waverley, attending the once-progressive school Shirley then, for her final year/s, SCEGGS. Before her marriage, she lived with her mother at 6 Viret Street, Hunters Hill. Brenda's father Herbert (Bert), a vet, had died when she was a toddler. He left his widow Ethel (known by her second name, Brenda) with five young children (Brenda and her four older brothers). Bert's father John Pottie had established the veterinary practice and published two books on the care of horses, then the mainstay of veterinary practices.((http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/pottie-john-4409)) Bert's mother Eliza Pottie was a Quaker, temperance advocate and highly active philanthropist who took a leading role in the fight for women's suffrage.(({{http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/pottie-eliza-13155}})) Brenda's mother found it difficult to adjust to the financial implications of her husband's death, and continued with much the same style of living. The younger Brenda left school and became a highly skilled typist in the NSW Tax Office [check].\\ | He married Brenda Isabel Pottie (15 July 1914-18 July 2008((SMH death notice, 23 July 2008.)) at St Stephen's Presbyterian Church on 29 November 1938.((The pending wedding was reported with a photo of glowing Brenda and her bridesmaid Molly M-P in the //Sydney Morning Herald//, 29 November 1938, p.4. They were pictured in the rose garden at Brenda's mother's home, 6 Veret Street, Hunters Hill)) Brenda (known also as Isabel and Isa) had grown up at Waverley, attending the once-progressive school Shirley then, for her final year/s, SCEGGS.((there is a story about this, click on [[busted]] for more)) Before her marriage, she lived with her mother at 6 Viret Street, Hunters Hill. Brenda's father Herbert (Bert), a vet, had died when she was a toddler. He left his widow Ethel (known by her second name, Brenda) with five young children (Brenda and her four older brothers). Bert's father John Pottie had established the veterinary practice and published two books on the care of horses, then the mainstay of veterinary practices.((http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/pottie-john-4409)) Bert's mother Eliza Pottie was a Quaker, temperance advocate and highly active philanthropist who took a leading role in the fight for women's suffrage.(({{http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/pottie-eliza-13155}})) Brenda's mother found it difficult to adjust to the financial implications of her husband's death, and continued with much the same style of living. The younger Brenda left school and became a highly skilled typist in the Tax Office.\\ |
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| {{:mum_and_molly.jpg?200|}}Photo: Brenda M-P on her wedding day with her bridesmaid and sister-in-law Molly M-P.((Provenance: J. Godden. The dress was a beautiful silk, painted with delicate flowers.))\\ | {{:mum_and_molly.jpg?200|}}Photo: Brenda M-P on her wedding day with her bridesmaid and sister-in-law Molly M-P.((Provenance: J. Godden. The dress was a beautiful silk, painted with delicate flowers.))\\ |
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| Sterling and Brenda's only son was born 10 months after they married (luckily at this censorious time, he was not premature like their next baby!). A month after his birth, World War II started. Sterling enlisted on 11 July 1940((https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4640026)) and served as a Gunner((https://www.army.gov.au/our-people/australian-army-rank-structure/other-ranks)) in the [[wp>2/9th_Field_Regiment_(Australia)|2/9 Field Regiment]].((http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?ServiceId=A&VeteranId=175805. For a history of the Regiment, see http://digital.slv.vic.gov.au/view/action/singleViewer.do?dvs=1507941719870~632&locale=en_GB&metadata_object_ratio=10&show_metadata=true&VIEWER_URL=/view/action/singleViewer.do?&preferred_usage_type=VIEW_MAIN&DELIVERY_RULE_ID=10&frameId=1&usePid1=true&usePid2=true)) He served in the Middle East for over a year, as well as in South Australia and North Queensland. As far as is known, he did not see his wife or son again until 1945. He was discharged on 6 November 1945.((Certificate of Discharge,E.S. M-P,provenance: J. Godden)) \\ | Sterling and Brenda's only son was born 10 months after they married (luckily at this censorious time, he was not premature like their next baby!). A month after his birth, World War II started. Sterling enlisted on 11 July 1940((https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4640026)) and served as a Gunner in the [[wp>2/9th_Field_Regiment_(Australia)|2/9 Field Regiment]].((http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?ServiceId=A&VeteranId=175805. For a history of the Regiment, see http://digital.slv.vic.gov.au/view/action/singleViewer.do?dvs=1507941719870~632&locale=en_GB&metadata_object_ratio=10&show_metadata=true&VIEWER_URL=/view/action/singleViewer.do?&preferred_usage_type=VIEW_MAIN&DELIVERY_RULE_ID=10&frameId=1&usePid1=true&usePid2=true)) He served in the Middle East for over a year. He saw his wife and son briefly in Sydney on his return from the Middle East, on his way from South Australia to far north Queensland, then not until the war had ended. Brenda had four brothers (no sisters) and they also all joined up (2 in the RAAF, 2 in the AIF) leaving her and her widowed mother alone in Australia.((Sydney Morning Herald, 8 January 1942, p.5.)) Sterling was discharged on 6 November 1945.((Certificate of Discharge,E.S. M-P,provenance: J. Godden)) \\ |
| {{:slide_16_esmp_uniform.jpg?250|}} ES M-P shortly after he enlisted, c.1940 ((Provenance: J. Godden))\\ | {{:slide_16_esmp_uniform.jpg?250|}} ES M-P shortly after he enlisted, c.1940 ((Provenance: J. Godden))\\ |
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| Sterling had thrived amidst mates from very different backgrounds and in highly physical work, and returned a very different man. With the war's end, he was discharged from the army on 6 November 1945.((Certificate of Discharge, provenance J. Godden)) He was re-employed at Perpetual, but found being confined to a desk job difficult. On the advice of his wife's brother-in-law, he pooled his and Brenda's meagre resources to buy a dairy farm from a relative of the brother-in-law's wife. The date of the purchase could later be seen as prophetic: 1 April 1949.((ESM-P,letter to tax office, 1956. Provenance J. Godden.)) The farm was at Hydes Creek, four miles from [[wp>Bellingen,_New_South_Wales|Bellingen]]. Sterling, Brenda, their son and daughter Helen moved there; a second daughter was born nearly two years later. The farm was never a viable proposition, despite the efforts of agricultural researchers to find alternative crops, and became less so with the inexorable decline of the North Coast dairy industry. While he thrived on the outdoor life and went from total inexperience to a highly respected farmer, Sterling's big achievement was to wrest a minimal living from infertile land. He only once, in the late 1960s, accepted a desk job to tide the family over a specially bad drought. His wife and son had a particularly challenging time due to their huge decline in living conditions: Hydes Creek had no electricity until 1962; the roads were untarred; and when he entered High School their son had to undertake a long commute to Coffs Harbour High School, involving bike, bus and train. Dairy cows need to be milked twice a day and the family could not afford any help; in later years Sterling made a yearly trip to Sydney to see his widowed mother, but Brenda rarely had a day away from the farm. Even when bitten by a red-back spider, she had to drive herself to Bellingen Hospital while the rest of the family did the milking.\\ | Sterling had thrived amidst mates from very different backgrounds and in highly physical work, and returned a very different man. With the war's end, he was discharged from the army on 6 November 1945.((Certificate of Discharge, provenance J. Godden)) He was re-employed at Perpetual, but found being confined to a desk job difficult. On the advice of his wife's brother-in-law, he pooled his and Brenda's meagre resources to buy a dairy farm from a relative of the brother-in-law's wife. The date of the purchase could later be seen as prophetic: 1 April 1949.((ESM-P,letter to tax office, 1956. Provenance J. Godden.)) The farm was at Hydes Creek, four miles from [[wp>Bellingen,_New_South_Wales|Bellingen]]. Sterling, Brenda, their son and daughter Helen moved there; a second daughter was born nearly two years later. The farm was never a viable proposition, despite the efforts of agricultural researchers to find alternative crops, and became less so with the inexorable decline of the North Coast dairy industry. While he thrived on the outdoor life and went from total inexperience to a highly respected farmer, Sterling's big achievement was to wrest a minimal living from infertile land. He only once, in the late 1960s, accepted a desk job to tide the family over a specially bad drought. His wife and son had a particularly challenging time due to their huge decline in living conditions: Hydes Creek had no electricity until 1962; the roads were untarred; and when he entered High School their son had to undertake a long commute to Coffs Harbour High School, involving bike, bus and train. Dairy cows need to be milked twice a day and the family could not afford any help; in later years Sterling made a yearly trip to Sydney to see his widowed mother, but Brenda rarely had a day away from the farm. Even when bitten by a red-back spider, she had to drive herself to Bellingen Hospital while the rest of the family did the milking.\\ |
| {{:hydes_creek_farm.jpg?400|}} Photo of the M-P farm published in G. Wilson, F. Cradock, K. Flemons, 'Pasture and Soil Fertility Investigations in the Bellingen District', //The Agricultural Gazette//, May 1961, p.244. The article reported one of the numerous crop trials at the farm. The farm now looks completely different - the house has been moved to a sub-division at the Bellingen end of the old property; the reedy creek has been dammed; and new buildings added. Returning to look at a site can be very misleading! (see google maps for 423 Hydes Creek Road.)\\ | {{:hydes_creek_farm_from_far_paddock.jpg?300|}} Photo of the M-P farm published in G. Wilson, F. Cradock, K. Flemons, 'Pasture and Soil Fertility Investigations in the Bellingen District', //The Agricultural Gazette//, May 1961, p.244. The article reported one of the numerous crop trials at the farm. The farm now looks completely different - the house has been moved to a sub-division at the Bellingen end of the old property; the reedy creek has been dammed; and new buildings added. Returning to look at a site can be very misleading! (see google maps for 423 Hydes Creek Road.)\\ |
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| Brenda and Sterling benefited from family legacies as well as the local area being transformed by 'tree-changers' and the Australian Paper Manufacturers (APM, now Amcor). After they sold the farm, the local creek made into a dam, with the land apparently used as a hobby farm, the area looks idyllic and, to those who grew up there, unrecognisable. Brenda and Sterling moved to 5 Hawea Close,[[wp>Wamberal,_New_South_Wales|Wamberal]] on the NSW Central Coast. They enjoyed a comfortable retirement there, enjoying gardening and the local garden club, making numerous friends and benefiting enormously from dedicated nurses and other home-carers supported by the Department of Veteran Affairs. In their final years, however, infirmity made their lives difficult. Molly (Sterling's sister) and John Wilson later moved to Wamberal in their retirement as well.\\ | Brenda and Sterling benefited from family legacies as well as the local area being transformed by 'tree-changers' and the Australian Paper Manufacturers (APM, now Amcor). After they sold the farm, the local creek made into a dam, with the land apparently used as a hobby farm, the area looks idyllic and, to those who grew up there, unrecognisable. Brenda and Sterling moved to 5 Hawea Close,[[wp>Wamberal,_New_South_Wales|Wamberal]] on the NSW Central Coast. They enjoyed a comfortable retirement there, enjoying gardening and the local garden club, making numerous friends and benefiting enormously from dedicated nurses and other home-carers supported by the Department of Veteran Affairs. In their final years, however, infirmity made their lives difficult. Molly (Sterling's sister) and John Wilson later moved to Wamberal in their retirement as well.\\ |
| Three photos of David((Provenance: J. Godden)): The latter two were taken at Brecondale, his (Herring) grandparents' home at Gladesville in Sydney. {{:david_m-p.jpg?200|}} {{:david_mp_two.jpg?300|}} | Three photos of David((Provenance: J. Godden)): The latter two were taken at Brecondale, his (Herring) grandparents' home at Gladesville in Sydney. {{:david_m-p.jpg?200|}} {{:david_mp_two.jpg?300|}} |
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| 5. Sylvia Mary (**Molly**) (1919-2007((//Ryde Weekly Times//, death notice, 12 December 2007))) This photo of Molly was taken c.1939, either when World War II was imminent or had just begun.((Provenance: Australian War Memorial)) She is shown in the uniform of the Women's Emergency Signalling Corp, a voluntary organisation which trained women to be signallers and telephonists.((Margaret Kentley, Historical Notes, re ... Women's Emergency Signalling Corps 1939-41, MLDOC 3404)) {{:molly_cropped.jpg?300|}}Molly consequently joined the the WRANs (Women's Royal Air Force) in 1942 as a 'telegraphist'.((https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=4530612&S=1&N=2&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=4530612&T=P&S=1)) On 23 September 1950, she married John Alexander Wilson who owned,with his sister ?J. Marion Wilson, a property at Norway, via Oberon. They had 1 daughter and 2 sons.\\ | 5. Sylvia Mary (**Molly**) (1919-2007((Death notice in //Ryde Weekly Times//, 12 December 2007 & Sydney Morning Herald, 5 December 2007.)) This photo of Molly was taken c.1939, either when World War II was imminent or had just begun.((Provenance: Australian War Memorial)) She is shown in the uniform of the Women's Emergency Signalling Corp, a voluntary organisation which trained women to be signallers and telephonists.((Margaret Kentley, Historical Notes, re ... Women's Emergency Signalling Corps 1939-41, MLDOC 3404)) {{:molly_cropped.jpg?300|}}Molly consequently joined the the WRANs (Women's Royal Air Force) in 1942 as a 'telegraphist'.((https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=4530612&S=1&N=2&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=4530612&T=P&S=1)) On 23 September 1950, she married John Alexander Wilson who owned,with his sister ?J. Marion Wilson, a property at Norway, via Oberon. They had 1 daughter and 2 sons. Molly and John retired to Wamberal; after John's death Molly moved to a retirement home in Lindfield.\\ |
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| References:((Robert M-P, The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors, p.18; Thomas Bertram M-P, Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty, ms, n.d., p.15.)) | References:((Robert M-P, The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors, p.18; Thomas Bertram M-P, Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty, ms, n.d., p.15.)) |