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 ====== Florette, Mabel, Ethel and Phyllis M-P ======
+The children of Thomas de Montmorenci and Florence M-P were:\\
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 . Florence (known as **Florette**) Elizabeth, was born at Bowen, Queensland on 1 January 1879((QBDM ref C105)) and baptised there by the Rev. M. Ross((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)); she died in Sydney on 12 July 1956.((NSWBDM registration 21403/1957)) On 28 October 1896, the poet/novelist [[wp>James_Brunton_Stephens|James Brunton Stephens]] wrote to her encouraging her to persevere with her poetry, but advising she defer publication.((Provenance: Jill Fleming.)) Prominent feminist Rose Scott also wrote to Florette encouraging her artistic talents.((reference? just brief note found so far.)) In the end, Florence decided on music, with a New Zealand paper reporting in 1906 that she planned to go to Paris for further study.((//Star//, 16 October 1906, p.1.)) In 1909 it was announced that she would be part of the Alys Bateman Concert Company to tour New Zealand the following year.((//New Zealand Herald//, supplement, 27 November 1909, p.4.))\\
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 {{ :florette_m-p.jpg?200|}} The photo is of the young Florette.((Provenance: J. Godden to Jill Fleming.)) \\
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-Florette's strong-mindedness tended to be viewed with alarm, if not hostility, by the younger male members of the family. Nora M-P's nephew R.A. (Max) Barton was very sociable when on leave in London during World War I, but complained each time he felt duty-bound to visit Florette. That she campaigned (in the UK) for women's suffrage did not help him view her any more favourably, writing after one visit in 1917 that he'd 'listened to the success of her suffragette campaign in Ireland till I was sick ... I was quite relieved to hear that Mrs Herring had, on receipt of report of above mentioned campaigns told her not to be a fool and to waste her time on such rubbish.' (([[https://maxandtonybartonww1lettershome.wordpress.com/|Max and Tony Barton WWI letters 4 April 1917]])) Presumably 'Mrs Herring' was her mother-in-law. After the war, Florette continued to be viewed with trepidation partly because she was an energetic organiser of social events((E.S.M-P., pers. com.)) - the steely resolve evident in this childhood photo did not leave her! Her husband Syd appears more sympathetic with their wartime letters indicating that they enjoyed a happy marriage.\\
+Florette's strong-mindedness tended to be viewed with alarm, if not hostility, by the younger male members of the family. Nora M-P's nephew R.A. (Max) Barton was very sociable when on leave in London during World War I, but complained each time he felt duty-bound to visit Florette. That she campaigned (in the UK) for women's suffrage did not help him view her any more favourably, writing after one visit in 1917 that he'd 'listened to the success of her suffragette campaign in Ireland till I was sick ... I was quite relieved to hear that Mrs Herring had, on receipt of report of above mentioned campaigns told her not to be a fool and to waste her time on such rubbish.' (([[https://maxandtonybartonww1lettershome.wordpress.com/|Max and Tony Barton WWI letters 4 April 1917]])) Presumably 'Mrs Herring' was her mother-in-law. After the war, Florette continued to be viewed with trepidation partly because she was an energetic organiser of social events((E.S.M-P., pers. com.)) - the steely resolve evident in her childhood photo did not leave her! Her husband Syd appears more sympathetic, with their wartime letters indicating that they enjoyed a happy marriage.\\
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 Syd and Florette's only child, a talented singer, was christened Florette Ruth Diana but always known as Diana (23 October 1911- 5 November 1993). In 1947, Diana married, secondly, Brian Fleming. They had two girls and a son Robert Brian Edgar Fleming (2 February 1951 - 5 June 2012). Brian Fleming documented his wife's family history; photos and documents from his collection have been used in this history. \\
-For other photos, click on [[Florette]]
+**For other photos, click on [[Florette]]**
 . **Mabel** Penelope, M.A., Ch.M.(Sydney University) 10 September((Tom A. M-P's family tree has September as does Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Prior//s, p.14 and ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; Queensland births, 1881, entry C3011 has November)) - 9 January 1932. She was born at Ipswich, perhaps on the property that, in 1880 at least, was owned by her grandfather TLM-P: Pullen, Moreton, Ipswich((H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880// at [[https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=QgRLAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=en&pg=GBS.PR1]])). She was baptised at Ipswich by the Rev. Mr Heath.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry. When reporting her death (with a number of inaccuracies), the //Daily Telegraph// 21 January 1932, p.15 stated that she was born at her parents' Bulli Bulli station in western Queensland.)) Her Sydney University records states that she went to school, presumably as a boarder, at {{http://www.ascham.nsw.edu.au/a-strong-history/|Ascham}}.\\
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 Ethel appears to have been musical like her sister Florette. She went to the trouble of binding her music together in a volume embossed with her name 'E. Butler'. On this sample page, she wrote her name and 'New York 1907', suggesting she obtained it there. {{:ethel_music.jpg?250|}}((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\
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-. **Phyllis** Claudia 23 July 1886 - 1957. She was born at Maroon Station and baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane by the Rev. M Robinson.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry)). She and Edgar Cannon McConnel married in 1909((Qld marriage registration C892)) and lived for most of their marriage on the McConnel family property [[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/history/|Cressbrook]], near [[wp>/Toogoolawah|Toogoolawah]] in south-west Queensland. Edgar McConnel was an outstanding horseman and helped train the Australian Light Horsemen during World War I.(([[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/the-mcconnel-family-cressbrook-today/]])) Noted anthropologist, [[wiki>Ursula_McConnel|Ursula McConnel]], was Edgar McConnel's sister, and thus became Mary M-P's (Thomas de M. M-P's 2nd wife, as outlined below) step-niece: different generations of anthropologists of Aboriginal life connected to the one family. Phyllis and Edgar had 4 children: Duncan, Elizabeth, Margaret and Helen (married name Cook) McConnel. Duncan had three children and Helen Cook two.\\
+. **Phyllis** Claudia 23 July 1886 - 1957. She was born at Maroon and baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane by the Rev. M Robinson.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry)). She and Edgar Cannon McConnel married in 1909((Qld marriage registration C892)) and lived for most of their marriage on the McConnel family property [[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/history/|Cressbrook]], near [[wp>/Toogoolawah|Toogoolawah]] in south-west Queensland. Edgar McConnel was an outstanding horseman and helped train the Australian Light Horsemen during World War I.(([[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/the-mcconnel-family-cressbrook-today/]])) Noted anthropologist, [[wiki>Ursula_McConnel|Ursula McConnel]], was Edgar McConnel's sister, and thus became Mary M-P's (Thomas de M. M-P's 2nd wife, as outlined below) step-niece: different generations of anthropologists of Aboriginal life connected to the one family. Phyllis and Edgar had 4 children: Duncan, Elizabeth, Margaret and Helen (married name Cook) McConnel. Duncan had three children and Helen Cook two.\\
 {{:phyllis_ethel_mp.jpeg?250|}} The two younger sisters.((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P)) Phyllis when older.((Provenance: Jill Fleming)) {{:phyllis.jpg?300|}}