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 ====== Thomas Bertram and Lizzie M-P ====== ====== Thomas Bertram and Lizzie M-P ======
  
-Thomas Bertram, the 5th consecutive Thomas Murray-Prior, was born on 4 February 1883 at Moonbago Station, South Kennedy, Bully Creek, a station owned by his grandfather TLM-P.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880// at [[https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=QgRLAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=en&pg=GBS.PR2]]. In contrast, //Fox's History of Queensland: Its People and Industries//, p.173, says he was 'born on "Bulliwallah" Station, Northern Queensland' [same?])) He was his parents' third child and only son.\\+Thomas Bertram, the 5th consecutive Thomas Murray-Prior, was born on 4 February 1883 at Moonbago Station, South Kennedy, Bully Creek, a station owned by his grandfather TLM-P.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880// at [[https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=QgRLAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=en&pg=GBS.PR2]]. In contrast, //Fox's History of Queensland: Its People and Industries//, p.173, says he was 'born on "Bulliwallah" Station, Northern Queensland' [same?])) He was Thomas de Montmorenci and Florence M-P'third child and only son.\\
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 {{:t_b_m-p_query.jpeg?250|}} Thomas B. M-P taken by professional photographer in Brisbane.((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\ {{:t_b_m-p_query.jpeg?250|}} Thomas B. M-P taken by professional photographer in Brisbane.((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\
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 {{:st_andrew_s_church_built_by_mps_built_1907.jpeg?300|}} Card featuring St Andrew's Church, Maroon - the M-Ps, presumabably Thomas B. M-P, were responsible for its erection in 1907.((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\ {{:st_andrew_s_church_built_by_mps_built_1907.jpeg?300|}} Card featuring St Andrew's Church, Maroon - the M-Ps, presumabably Thomas B. M-P, were responsible for its erection in 1907.((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\
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-On 18 February 1911, Thomas B. M-P married second cousin, Lizzie Kate (Dickie) Lightoller (29 October 1887—21 January 1949).((Qld marriage registration C887; Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.50)) daughter of well-known Brisbane physician, Dr. Henry Lightoller. Dr Lightoller's grandmother was Rosa Haly (nee Harpur), Matilda M-P's sister.(([Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014.)) There was either a printing error in the marriage notice , or she was also known as Elsie.((//The Sydney Morning Herald//, 8 April 1911, p.14.)) \\+On 18 February 1911, Thomas B. M-P married his second cousin, Lizzie Kate (Dickie) Lightoller (29 October 1887—21 January 1949).((Qld marriage registration C887; Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.50)) daughter of well-known Brisbane physician, Dr. Henry Lightoller. Dr Lightoller's grandmother was Rosa Haly (nee Harpur), Matilda M-P's sister.(([Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014.)) There was either a printing error in the marriage notice , or she was also known as Elsie.((//The Sydney Morning Herald//, 8 April 1911, p.14.)) \\
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-Thomas B. and Lizzie M-P gave their first born his grandfather's name, so we get a second **[[thomas_lodge_and_lillian_m-p|Thomas Lodge M-P]]**.(([Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014.)) See the two sidebar entries for more about that Thomas Lodge, and his siblings Minnie Violet (Vi) M-P, Standish Haly M-P and Hugh Burnett M-P.\\+Thomas B. and Lizzie M-P gave their first born his grandfather's name, so we get a second **[[thomas_lodge_and_lillian_m-p|Thomas Lodge M-P]]**.(([Thomas A. M-P], Murray-Prior Family, booklet, October 2014.)) See the two sidebar entries for more about that Thomas Lodge, and his siblings Minnie (Vi), Standish and Hugh Burnett M-P.\\
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 {{:dickie_her_mother_mrs_lightoller_and_tlmp.jpeg?250|}} 'Dickie' M-P, her mother Maria Theresa (Minnie) Lightoller (nee Haly), and baby Thomas L. M-P\\ For more photos of the Lightollers, click on [[**Lightoller**]]\\  {{:dickie_her_mother_mrs_lightoller_and_tlmp.jpeg?250|}} 'Dickie' M-P, her mother Maria Theresa (Minnie) Lightoller (nee Haly), and baby Thomas L. M-P\\ For more photos of the Lightollers, click on [[**Lightoller**]]\\ 
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 {{:tbmp_at_birrilli.jpeg?250|}}{{:birrilli.jpeg?300|}}{{:birrilli_2.jpeg?300|}} Three views of Birrilli, home of Thomas B. and Lizzie M-P. The first indistinct photo is of Thomas B. M-P in the garden.((Provenance: Tom A. & T. M-P))\\ {{:tbmp_at_birrilli.jpeg?250|}}{{:birrilli.jpeg?300|}}{{:birrilli_2.jpeg?300|}} Three views of Birrilli, home of Thomas B. and Lizzie M-P. The first indistinct photo is of Thomas B. M-P in the garden.((Provenance: Tom A. & T. M-P))\\
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-After selling Maroon, Thomas B., Lizzie and their children moved to [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]].((Standish M-P to Roy M-P, 27 November 1991)) By 1937, they had moved to 'Birrilli', Kensett Avenue, [[wp>Leura,_New_South_Wales|Leura]] in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney, perhaps as the climate was seen healthier for their eldest son (another Thomas of course) who had contracted polio. In 1937 Thomas B. was elected to the Leura Urban Committee.((//Nepean Times//, 9 December 1937, p.1.)) When Thomas and Lizzie's son Standish enlisted during World War II, he gave his father's address as 'Birrilli'. Thomas B. M-P died in circa 1948; his last address was Irish Harp Road (now Regency Road), Prospect, Adelaide, South Australia. Probate was granted to Stella Gilmore Prior, understood to be a nurse.((//Sydney Morning Herald//, 21 June 1948, p.5; Tom A. M-P, pers. com.)) It is believed that Stella later migrated to New Zealand, possibly with her and Thomas's child, who perhaps took the surname Murray-Prior or Prior. New Zealand papers reported visits to that country by Thomas B. and Lizzie on several occasions before and during World War I.((//Wanganui Chronicle//, 24 June 1909, p.2; //Nelson Evening Mail//, 28 March 1911, p.4; //Sun//, 15 March 1915, p.4.)) Thomas B. M-P stayed there, apparently for over a year, in 1935-36,((//New Zealand Herald//, 28 March 1935, p.6; //Otago Daily Times//, 1 April 1935, p.8; //Auckland Star//, 12 May 1936, p.4.)) then left for Vancouver.((//Otago Daily Times//, 18 May 1936, p.8.))+After selling Maroon, Thomas B., Lizzie and their children moved to [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]].((Standish M-P to Roy M-P, 27 November 1991)) By 1937, they had moved to 'Birrilli', Kensett Avenue, [[wp>Leura,_New_South_Wales|Leura]] in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney, perhaps as the climate was seen healthier for their eldest son (another Thomas of course) who had contracted polio. In 1937 Thomas B. was elected to the Leura Urban Committee.((//Nepean Times//, 9 December 1937, p.1.)) When Thomas and Lizzie's son Standish enlisted during World War II, he gave his father's address as 'Birrilli'. Thomas B. M-P died in circa 1948; his last address was Irish Harp Road (now Regency Road), Prospect, Adelaide, South Australia. Probate was granted to Stella Gilmore Prior, understood to be a nurse.((//Sydney Morning Herald//, 21 June 1948, p.5; Tom A. M-P, pers. com.)) It is believed that Stella later migrated to New Zealand, possibly with her and Thomas's child, who perhaps took the surname Murray-Prior or Prior. \\ 
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 +A search of the New Zealand papers reveals a mystery. There are reports of visits to that country by Thomas B. and his wife on several occasions before and during World War I.((//Wanganui Chronicle//, 24 June 1909, p.2; //Nelson Evening Mail//, 28 March 1911, p.4; //Sun//, 15 March 1915, p.4.)) Even odder are the reports that Thomas B. M-P stayed there, apparently for over a year, in 1935-36,((//New Zealand Herald//, 28 March 1935, p.6; //Otago Daily Times//, 1 April 1935, p.8; //Auckland Star//, 12 May 1936, p.4.)) then left for Vancouver.((//Otago Daily Times//, 18 May 1936, p.8.)) Was this another Thomas B. M-P, a misprint, or unexplained activity in New Zealand?
  
  
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