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| ====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== | ====== Matilda and TLM-P's children ====== |
| | Matilda and TLM-P had 10 children, with four dying when babies. Of the surviving six, two died when young men. \\ |
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| The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ | The below photos, unless otherwise stated, are from Nora C. M-P's photo album. Other photos and some duplicates are, when stated, from TLM-P's album.((Provenance of both albums: J. Godden.))\\ |
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| Jack Jardine had taken charge of Vallack Point Station, near Somerset (Cape York), in 1868 when he was only 21 years old. At some time he appears to have been in the Barcoo area in Central West Queensland, as Nora wrote to Rosa reassuring her that, if Lizzie did live there, it was no longer 'the unattainable uninhabitable 'terra incognita' ... You can't stretch a line 80 miles in a given direction there now without touching a piano or a sewing machine - Ladies and babies are as thick as bandicoots ... and the former are very angry if you hint there may possibly be a more desirable place of residence.'((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 13 May 1883, Praed papers, QJO)) Despite this reassuring description of the Barcoo, after their marriage, Lizzie stayed with the Jardines in Rockhampton while her husband set up a home for her at Aberfoyle Station in western Queensland (just over 1,000 km northwest of Brisbane), breeding sheep and cattle. TLM-P bought the property in partnership with Jack Jardine in 1885 to try to secure Lizzie's future.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) \\ | Jack Jardine had taken charge of Vallack Point Station, near Somerset (Cape York), in 1868 when he was only 21 years old. At some time he appears to have been in the Barcoo area in Central West Queensland, as Nora wrote to Rosa reassuring her that, if Lizzie did live there, it was no longer 'the unattainable uninhabitable 'terra incognita' ... You can't stretch a line 80 miles in a given direction there now without touching a piano or a sewing machine - Ladies and babies are as thick as bandicoots ... and the former are very angry if you hint there may possibly be a more desirable place of residence.'((Nora M-P to Rosa Praed, 13 May 1883, Praed papers, QJO)) Despite this reassuring description of the Barcoo, after their marriage, Lizzie stayed with the Jardines in Rockhampton while her husband set up a home for her at Aberfoyle Station in western Queensland (just over 1,000 km northwest of Brisbane), breeding sheep and cattle. TLM-P bought the property in partnership with Jack Jardine in 1885 to try to secure Lizzie's future.((Kay Ferres, ‘”I must dree my weird”: A colonial Correspondence’, Hecate, 31:2, 2005, p.70.)) \\ |
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| As with so many of TLM-P's ventures - not to mention Jack Jardine's - the property was not profitable, with the 1890s drought the last straw.((Anne Alloway and Roberta Morrison,//Tales from Bush Graves. A study of bush graves in north-west Queensland,// Brisbane: Boolarong Press, 2012, p.2.)) A key reason was its unreliable water supply.((//Otago Witness//, issue 2668, 3 May 1905, p.8.)) TLM-P's 1892 will states that the property cost him £10,070 and that, by then, the partnership had a £8,000 mortgage.((copy of will with J. Godden.)) Aberfoyle was sold after TLM-P's death and, in 1905, the Queensland Supreme Court was told that the loss that entailed was the chief reason the estate could not afford to pay the bequests.((//The Richmond River Express and Casino Kyogle Advertiser//, 3 November 1905, p.6.)) It also appears that Lizzie's youngest brother Egerton also lived on the property((ref: Burke)) [to do: loose 1888 balance sheet for Aberfoyle station in ML - was in reported of Queensland post service for 1864, donated with diaries, 4pp.] When Jack Jardine died from pneumonia((M-P family papers, NLA Ms 7801, folder 25, Ruth? M-P to Rosa Praed?, 1 October 1911.)) at [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]] in 1911, he worked for Messrs Aplin, Brown and Co., a major mercantile company operating in north Queensland.((Wiki entry for Aplin, Brown and Co; Jill Fleming, email to J. Godden, 18 January 2018)) **For more, click on the [[Jardines]].**\\ | As with so many of TLM-P's ventures - not to mention Jack Jardine's - the property was not profitable, with the 1890s drought the last straw.((Anne Alloway and Roberta Morrison,//Tales from Bush Graves. A study of bush graves in north-west Queensland,// Brisbane: Boolarong Press, 2012, p.2.)) A key reason was its unreliable water supply.((//Otago Witness//, issue 2668, 3 May 1905, p.8.)) TLM-P's 1892 will states that the property cost him £10,070 and that, by then, the partnership had a £8,000 mortgage.((copy of will with J. Godden.)) Aberfoyle was sold after TLM-P's death and, in 1905, the Queensland Supreme Court was told that the loss that entailed was the chief reason the estate could not afford to pay the bequests.((//The Richmond River Express and Casino Kyogle Advertiser//, 3 November 1905, p.6.)) It also appears that Lizzie's youngest brother Egerton also lived on the property((ref: Burke)) [to do: loose 1888 balance sheet for Aberfoyle station in ML - was in reported of Queensland post service for 1864, donated with diaries, 4pp.] When Jack Jardine died from pneumonia((M-P family papers, NLA Ms 7801, folder 25, Ruth? M-P to Rosa Praed?, 1 October 1911.)) at [[wp>Southport,_Queensland|Southport]] in 1911, he worked for Messrs Aplin, Brown and Co., a major mercantile company operating in north Queensland.((Wiki entry for Aplin, Brown and Co; Jill Fleming, email to J. Godden, 18 January 2018))\\ |
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| | **For more, click on the [[Jardines]].**\\ |
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| 6. **Hervey** Morres (9 September 1856((Qld Births registration no. C543))-1 January 1887.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry. Queensland online death registration C1359 gives his first name as 'Henry', an easy mistake to make.)) His godmother was his English step-aunt Jemima Prior.((TLM-P, diary, 17 July 1864)) {{ :hervey_m-p.jpg?200|}} Photo: Hervey as young man, full of promise.((Provenance: J. Godden))\\ | 6. **Hervey** Morres (9 September 1856((Qld Births registration no. C543))-1 January 1887.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry. Queensland online death registration C1359 gives his first name as 'Henry', an easy mistake to make.)) His godmother was his English step-aunt Jemima Prior.((TLM-P, diary, 17 July 1864)) {{ :hervey_m-p.jpg?200|}} Photo: Hervey as young man, full of promise.((Provenance: J. Godden))\\ |
| 7.**Redmond** (6 October 1858((Qld Births registration no. B781; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; T.A M-P's Family Bible states he was born 25 October 1858 at Cleveland but this would appear to be incorrect.)) - 21 January 1911((Qld Death C198 for year.)) 'Reddie', as his family called him, was born at Kangaroo Point, Brisbane and baptised there by the Rev. B.E. Shaw.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Redmond was a family name; TLM-P visited the house at Brighton where an earlier Redmond M-P had lived.((TLM-P, Diary, 25 June 1882)) In 1882, the 24 year old Redman was being 'obstinate', causing problems for his step-mother while his father was away.((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882))\\ | 7.**Redmond** (6 October 1858((Qld Births registration no. B781; TLM-P, genealogical notes in John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846; T.A M-P's Family Bible states he was born 25 October 1858 at Cleveland but this would appear to be incorrect.)) - 21 January 1911((Qld Death C198 for year.)) 'Reddie', as his family called him, was born at Kangaroo Point, Brisbane and baptised there by the Rev. B.E. Shaw.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Redmond was a family name; TLM-P visited the house at Brighton where an earlier Redmond M-P had lived.((TLM-P, Diary, 25 June 1882)) In 1882, the 24 year old Redman was being 'obstinate', causing problems for his step-mother while his father was away.((TLM-P, Diary, 16 August 1882))\\ |
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| He died aged 52 shortly after boarding a train to go to Bowen for medical treatment after complaining of being unwell. He was described as having lived in [[wp>Proserpine,_Queensland|Proserpine, north Queensland]] for over 20 years. He had pursued mining interests (the area is known for its gold) in the district and had, shortly before his death, acquired an interest in a farm at nearby Kelsey Creek.((//Bowen Independent//, 24 January 1911, p.2.)) To date we have no more information about the adult Reddie, other than a comment by his step-mother in 1880 that Alice Bundock was attached to him (Alice's sister Mary became the second wife of Redmond's eldest brother Thomas de M. M-P).((Praed papers, QJO OM64-1, 4/2/1-4, cited by Julie Marcus in __First in their Field__)) The attachment did not come to anything as Redmond apparently died unmarried. We know nothing about any other attachments, or the reason for the family's relative silence about him.\\ | He died aged 52 shortly after boarding a train to go to Bowen for medical treatment after complaining of being unwell. He was described as having lived in [[wp>Proserpine,_Queensland|Proserpine, north Queensland]] for over 20 years. He had pursued mining interests (the area is known for its gold) in the district and had, shortly before his death, acquired an interest in a farm at nearby Kelsey Creek.((//Bowen Independent//, 24 January 1911, p.2.)) To date we have no more information about the adult Reddie, other than a comment by his step-mother in 1880 that Alice Bundock was attached to him (Alice's sister Mary became the second wife of Redmond's eldest brother Thomas de M. M-P).((Praed papers, QJO OM64-1, 4/2/1-4, cited by Julie Marcus in __First in their Field__)) The attachment did not come to anything and they both died unmarried. We know nothing about any other attachments, or the reason for the family's relative silence about him.\\ |
| The photo, from TLM-P's album, is of Reddie (right) and his brother Hugh. {{:reddie_and_hugh.jpg?300|}} **For more photos, click on [[Reddie]]**.\\ | The photo, from TLM-P's album, is of Reddie (right) and his brother Hugh. {{:reddie_and_hugh.jpg?300|}} **For more photos, click on [[Reddie]]**.\\ |
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| {{:egerton_poetry.jpg?300|}} Cover of Egerton's poems, ML A821/P658.2/1A1. **For more, click on [[Egerton's poetry]].**\\ | {{:egerton_poetry.jpg?300|}} Cover of Egerton's poems, ML A821/P658.2/1A1. **For more, click on [[Egerton's poetry]].**\\ |
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| Egerton and Sara Arbuthnot Crawford (b. St James' Park, London) married on 30 April 1894 at St Andrew's Church of England, Lutwyche in Brisbane.((This church has since been replaced, see {{http://www.lutwycheanglican.org.au/about-us/history}})) They lived at Moorlands, Malvern Hills, Blackall in south-west Queensland((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) and had one son, Egerton Thomas Crawford M-P, who was born in Brisbane who died less than a month old. For more, click on [[Baby Egerton]]. Egerton and Sara had no other children and Sara died in c.1903.((Qld death registration C1358)) He became a diary farmer at [[wp>Nambour,_Queensland|Nambour]] in Queensland, but became bankrupt.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, special set 15/83)) In a codicil to his will just before he died in December 1892, TLM-P provided for Egerton's £3,000 legacy being paid to him before his father's death; presumably to protect the money from creditors, he also stipulated that no income be paid to Egerton (or his younger brothers) while bankrupt, although it could be paid to any wife or children.((codicil, copy with J. Godden.))\\ | Egerton and Sara Arbuthnot Crawford (b. St James' Park, London) married on 30 April 1894 at St Andrew's Church of England, Lutwyche in Brisbane.((This church has since been replaced, see {{http://www.lutwycheanglican.org.au/about-us/history}})) They lived at Moorlands, Malvern Hills, Blackall in south-west Queensland((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) Their only child, also called Egerton, died less than a month old. For more, see sidebar for 3rd generation. Sara died in c.1903.((Qld death registration C1358)) He became a diary farmer at [[wp>Nambour,_Queensland|Nambour]] in Queensland, but became bankrupt.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, special set 15/83)) In a codicil to his will just before he died in December 1892, TLM-P provided for Egerton's £3,000 legacy being paid to him before his father's death; presumably to protect the money from creditors, he also stipulated that no income be paid to Egerton (or his younger brothers) while bankrupt, although it could be paid to any wife or children.((codicil, copy with J. Godden.))\\ |
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| In 1905, Egerton re-married, to Annie Grace (known as Grace) Crawford.((Qld marriage registration C2010)) Was she a relative of Sara's, perhaps a sister? The original certificates are needed to help clear up this mystery.((Annie was born in 1879, daughter of Fergus and Agnes Crawford, Birth registration number B24396). In August 1911, Ruth M-P wrote to Rosa Praed that she had seen Egerton and Grace - he was looking prosperous and had just bought his neighbour's farm but, she added, Egerton's 'swans are often geese'.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, folder 25.))\\ | In 1905, Egerton married again, to Annie Grace (known as Grace) Crawford.((Qld marriage registration C2010)) Was she a relative of Sara's, perhaps a sister? The original certificates are needed to help clear up this mystery.((Annie was born in 1879, daughter of Fergus and Agnes Crawford, Birth registration number B24396). In August 1911, Ruth M-P wrote to Rosa Praed that she had seen Egerton and Grace - he was looking prosperous and had just bought his neighbour's farm but, she added, Egerton's 'swans are often geese'.((M-P family papers, NLA MS 7801, folder 25.))\\ |
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| Egerton is buried in the family plot at Toowong Cemetery, Brisbane.\\ | Egerton and his son are buried in the family plot at Toowong Cemetery, Brisbane.\\ |
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| Photos of Egerton: {{:egerton_1.jpg?200|}} {{:egerton_from_tlmp.jpg?200|}}{{:egerton_2.jpg?200|}}((Provenance: J. Godden)).\\ | Photos of Egerton: {{:egerton_1.jpg?200|}} {{:egerton_from_tlmp.jpg?200|}}{{:egerton_2.jpg?200|}}((Provenance: J. Godden)).\\ |
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| This next photo, in a beautiful tooled leather case, was donated by Colin Roderick to the ML((MIN 333)). He identified one of the boys as possibly Egerton. {{:img_0419_edited.jpg?300|}} | This next photo, in a beautiful tooled leather case, was donated by Colin Roderick to the ML((MIN 333)). He identified one of the boys as possibly Egerton. {{:img_0419_edited.jpg?300|}} |