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 It's an intriguing tale, yet one that raises a number of red flags.
-While it was normal for Victorian-era husbands to write on behalf of wives, there is no mention of Elizabeth (like Sir John Conroy’s wife) having any knowledge of her husband’s intervention. In this case, a complication is that Elizabeth Marks was not literate, as indicated by her signing her marriage certificate with a cross.((copy in possession of author)) As well, the dates Robert M-P gave for Elizabeth and Alexander’s deaths are incorrect (cf. BDM) so he is not always reliable. His version, with some added errors such as Sarah and Andrew marrying, is repeated on Ancestory.com.((https://www.ancestry.com.au/genealogy/records/sarah-butler_96304805))
+While it was normal for Victorian-era husbands to write on behalf of wives, there is no mention of Elizabeth (like Sir John Conroy’s wife) having any knowledge of her husband’s intervention. In this case, a complication is that Elizabeth Marks was not literate, as indicated by her signing her marriage certificate with a cross. As well, the dates Robert M-P gave for Elizabeth and Alexander’s deaths are incorrect (cf. BDM) so he is not always reliable. His version, with some added errors such as Sarah and Andrew marrying, is repeated on Ancestory.com.((https://www.ancestry.com.au/genealogy/records/sarah-butler_96304805))
 The verdict? Most likely, Elizabeth Marks had nothing to do with the Murray-Priors or Butlers, though possibly an affair that resulted in a baby did occur.
+==== 2. A more grounded ‘Air Castle’: the Morres Family ====
+{{  https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G_M1umyY614/Vt2Q48p_RII/AAAAAAAAaOU/SHqUmrtydmo/s1600/ju.jpg?400|}}
+The Table below summarises the connection between the Murray-Priors and the Morres/Lodge families. It begins with Frances Butler marrying Hervey Morres: their great-granddaughter married Andrew M-P, TLM-P's great-grandfather. The Morres family tended to be successful, wealthy (Francis and Redmond both married an [[heiress]]) and public figures: models for children to emulate. Consequently, generations of Murray-Priors drew on this family when choosing names for their children. TLM-P’s second name was Lodge while his uncle was [[Lodge Morres M-P.]] Many of TLM-P's children appear to be named after this family. Catherine and Elizabeth were popular names and also the second names of TLM-P’s step-sister Louisa; Lodge and Morres could be named after his uncle; but there appears little other reason than identification with the Morres family when three of his sons were named Hervey, Redmond and (as a second name for Thomas) de Montmorenci (a variation of Montmorency).
+//Photo: Castlemorres House, Kilmaganny, Kilkenny: it was demolished in 1978.//\\
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+=== Four Generations: source of names and pride ===
+| [[Hervey Morres, 1625-1724]] | m. | [[[[the_butler_family|Frances Butler]]|
+| [[Francis Morres]] (b. circa 1680) | m. 1706 | [[francis_morres|Catherine Evans]]|
+| [[Redmond Morres]] (d. 1784)       | m. 1740 | [[redmond_morres|Elizabeth Lodge]]|
+| [[Frances Morres]] (b. circa 1751) | m. 29 April 1772 | [[frances_morres|Andrew Murray-Prior]] (c.1747-95)|
+In 1816, Frances Morres’ brother Lodge Morres was awarded the title Viscount Frankfort de Montmorency (he choose de Montmorency because of  what Burke's Peerage called a 'genuine but mistaken belief' that he was descended from the distinguished French family of that name).
+**Sources**: to do; http://www.munster-express.ie/community-notes/kilkenny/lecture-given-on-castlemorris-house-and-estate.